Man ‘Aaman Billaahi Wa Al-Yawmi Al-’Aakhiri Wa `Amil Saalihaaan’

Man ‘Aaman Billaahi Wa Al-Yawmi Al-’Aakhiri Wa `Amil Saalihaaan’

DSM Satyarthi

When we peruse Al Qur’an Al Majeed, we find an entirely different version of Islam, from what is being practiced today by some of the everobscene persons, in the Pakistan forum.
The sixty second Aayate Kareema of AlQur’an Al Kareem states:
‘Innallazeen ‘Aamanoo Wa Allaazeen Haadoo Wa An-Nasaaraa Wa As-Saabi’een Man ‘Aaman Billaahi Wa Al-Yawmi Al-’Aakhiri Wa `Amil Saalihaan Falahum ‘Ajruhum `Ind Rabbihim Wa Laa Khawfun `Alaihim Wa Laa Hum Yahzanoon’

‘Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allāh and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .’

2Al-Baqarah: 62

This Aayate Kareema had it’s proper importance in Islam before the counter revolution Islam had to face at Karbala.

After the unfortunate counter revolution, UNFORTUNATE FOR ENTIRE HUMANITY, NOT FOR MUSLIMS ALONE, Yazeed Mal’oon and his extremely selfish followers started their inhumane campaign against entire humanity setting aside this Aayate Kareema completely.
They argued, this aayat has a different meaning from what it appears to has.
What an argument!
But it was advertised with full force they could muster for the same.
It was declared that according to Islam, the Jannat is only for the Muslims.
And, who is a Muslim?
Obviously, who follows Yazeed Mal’oon and his bandits.
The VERY FACT THIS AAYATE KAREEMA DENIED.

This Aayate Kareema states, only Eiman will not suffice, ‘Amale Saalih is also necessary.
‘Man ‘Aaman Billaahi Wa Al-Yawmi Al-’Aakhiri Wa `Amil Saalihaaan’
‘Wa ‘Amil Saalihaan’ was made as unimportant, as they could make it.

Our great morons abc to xyz, ever changing Id idiot, Jack, Shul, Leo, HKR, KBK, AAAA, Double AAAA, Triple AAAA and 99xAAAA also belong to this lobby.

Therefore, they deny all the calls for ‘Amale Saalih’ ‘Good deeds’ and insist and advocate sheer obscenity that’s quite against Islam.

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Communal Muslims discuss my Muslim wife, me and my Muslim women: Durgesh


More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

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‘Dhruvaa’asmin gopatau syaat, bahveeh!’ ‘Be constant in this protector of women, numerous females!’

Dhruvaa’asmin gopatau syaat, bahveeh!

Be constant in this protector of women, numerous females!’

DSM Satyarthi

Yajurved opens with the great Mantr in prose:
Om ishe tvorjje tvaa vaayav sth’ devo vah savitaa praarpayatu shreshthtamaay’ karman’aapyaayadhvamaghnyaa’in draay’ bhaagam prajaavateeranameevaa’ayaxmaa maa v’ sten eishat maaghshagvongso dhruvaa’asmin gopatau syaat bahveeryajmaanasy’ pashoonpaahi.
‘Om! For the will power/food, thee. For energy, thee. Breezes are ye. Divine Creator impel, you all, to noblest work. Complete properly, Inviolable female! share for the controller of organs. Rich in offspring/subject. Free from sickness. Free from diminishing. No thief rule on you, no evil-praiser. Be constant in this master of ‘go’, numerous females! Guard the cattle of the worshiper.’

‘Be constant in this master of ‘go’, numerous females!’
‘Dhruvaa’asmin gopatau syaat, Bahveeh!’
This Mantr, thus, addresses the women of Sukr’ts, noble doers.
The Sukr’t, Noble doer, is said to be ‘MASTER OF GO”GOPATI’, here.
Ved contains infinite knowledge:
‘Anantaa vai Vedaa’.
‘GOPATI’ has been translated here ‘MASTER OF GO’, because ‘GO’ does not mean ‘WOMEN’ only in Vedic Sanskr’t.

http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/indexe.htm…

http://books.google.com/books…
http://colfa.utsa.edu/drinka/pie/lang_sanskri…
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rvsan/index.h…
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/624…
http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/eieol/…

It means, ORGAN, LAND, ALIVE, MOVING, ANIMAL, BULL, COW, etc. as well.

Vedic Sanskr’t is actually a TELEGRAPHIC LANGUAGE.
It was devised by Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma, Himself, to convey His knowledge for human beings, to guide them eternally, IF THEY WANT IT.
Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma does not impose even His divine knowledge on any one.
It’s there if you want it for you.
It’s there, but not for you, if you don’t want it.

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3. On History

4. Commentary on Ved

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7. Durgesh in Hindi/Urdu

Ved is not a book for Brahmans only. It’s a divine book for entire humankind

Ved is not a book for

Brahmans only.

It’s a divine book for

entire humankind, instead 

DSM Satyarthi

Ved clearly states:
Yathemaam vaacham kalyaaneemaavadaani janebhyah,
Brahmraajayaabhyaagvong shoodraay chaaryaay ch’ svaay’ chaarnaay.’

‘Appropriately I deliver this welfare speech for ALL THE PEOPLE: the intelligent ones, the politicians, the workers, the businesspersons,the self praising ones.’
— Ved: 2 Yajurved 26|2

‘JANEBHYAH’, Plural,’FOR ALL THE PEOPLE’.

Ved is thus, according to itself, a BOOK FOR THE PEOPLE, with no discrimination or exception, at all.

Ved, therefore, suits our present society more than any other book.
What is democracy?
A Government of the people, by the people, for the people.

Naturally, this system requires A BOOK FOR THE PEOPLE, too.

A Government of the people, by the people, for the people, directed by A BOOK FOR THE PEOPLE, too.

This important Ved Mantr, thus, puts Ved right in the middle of the present scenario.

I’m surprised to know that there are still some persons, who think that Ved is a book of Brahmans, and it preaches Brahmanism only.

The interesting thing about it is that the said persons have never read Ved.
Why this irrational prejudice?
Is it entirely a blind sentiment from Non-Brahmans?
Even then, why against Ved, while Ved does not support any such senseless principle.
Ved clearly states:
Yathemaam vaacham kalyaaneemaavadaani janebhyah,
Brahmraajayaabhyaagvong shoodraay chaaryaay ch’ svaay’ chaarnaay.’

‘Appropriately I deliver this welfare speech for ALL THE PEOPLE: the intelligent ones, the politicians, the workers, the businesspersons,the self praising ones.’
— Ved: 2 Yajurved 26|2

JANEBHYAH‘, Plural,’FOR ALL THE PEOPLE’.
Brahmraajayaabhyaagvong
Chaturthi. Dvivachan.
Brahm and Raajany’. For both of them.
Brahm does not mean here the Brahmans by birth.
It means ‘the intelligent persons, devoted to spiritual researches and devoted to spread the findings to the rest of the people.’
It’s quite against to the present concept of a Brahman by birth.
It’s quite a later idea.

By birth Brahmans spread this selfish idea when they realized that the politicians, businesspersons and even workers, had left them far behind in economy.
They had everything for subsistence, and even for luxury.
But the so called Brahmans did not have them.
Yet, they had one thing the rest three did not have:
The knowledge of Ved.
The politicians could give so many things, they earned in their lifetime, to their children.
The businesspersons could also give the same.
Even the workers could teach their children the technical knowledge and experiences of their profession.
What could they give to their children?
Naturally, what they themselves knew: Ved.

Every one can see that it was a later idea.

In the Vedic era, the politicians could easily leave politics and could practice and preach spirituality and Ved.
Brahmarshi Lord Vishvamitr is a fine example of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishvamitra

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3. Does religion provide false security?

4. Polygamy: a discarded system of life

5. The hidden agenda of Congress

6.No danger from RSS. The real danger is from anti Hindus

7. Voting for a satellite government?

8. How to establish ‘Rām Rājý’/ Ħukūmat-e-Ilāhī/The Kingdom of God

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. N’ karm lipyaté naré

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More on Islam from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Llā yamassuhu illā almutahharūn

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

17 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

19. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

21. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

39. Saamved: Mantr 1

40. Sāmved: Mantr 115

41. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

42. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

43. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

44. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

45.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

46. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

51. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

54.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

55.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Communal Muslims discuss my Muslim wife, me and my Muslim women: Durgesh

Communal Muslims discuss my

Muslim wife, me and my Muslim

women: Durgesh

Deepak Delhi India wrote on March 15, 2008:
‘Hey all u.I dont know whether they do or not,but I certainly know they(Muslim) dont like to.My girlfriend is a muslim and I know many other muslim girls through her.
I must say it might be alarming for muslims that they(most of muslim girls)think they are not given any outdoor freedom otherwise, they do not bother marrying hindu boys.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

NIZAMUDDIN Bangalore, India said:
‘I WENT TO TELL U THAT OUT OF 100 MUSLIM GIRLS ONLY 10GIRLS LIKE TO MARRY ANY TYPE OF CAST BOYS BUT NOT ALL OF THEM…. BUT WHO MARRY OTHER CAST BOY I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE NOT TRUE MUSLIM GIRLS.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Muxy Islamabad, Pakistan said:
‘this is all shit
nothind of this sort is prohabited
ur religion may allow to have sex with bitches.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I said:
‘i disagree with you Mr. Nizamuddin! I’m a Hindu. My wife is a Saiyada. She taught even me what the real Islam is. Through her I love Islam more today than I was not married to her. she maintains her Panjvaqta Namazes. She practices Tilavate Qur’ano Ahadees even. I wonder, if she is not a true Muslim girl, what she is. Will you care to answer?’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I resonded further:
‘Deepak is right. The Muslimat are revolting against Muslim males in a large number now everywhere.
The astonishing fact is that they don’t only want to marry Hindu males they want Hindu males for even sex out of wedlock.
They love to have Hindu boyfriends.
The trend is continued even in modern Muslim women. Even if they are not one man women, they still want Hindu males only to have sex with. They hate Muslim males immensely and even go to the extent to calling them impotent. They want to disgrace them and love their humiliation enjoying it immensely.
I have come into contact in a large number with these Muslim Women. I find it troublesome to keep them in control for not to disgrace Muslim males. They enjoy disgracing them and even express their disapproval if I try to control them. They still try to make me even join them in disgracing Muslim males to the extent that I feel myself awkward and not justified to my conscience.
Isn’t it really a matter to alarm the Muslim males and to change themselves accordingly?’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Salman Karachi, Pakistan said:
‘Actually Hindu/Sikh girls don’t bother about marrying Muslim boys and it’s good for us my 1 cousin married a Hindu girl and other married a Sikh girl but those ladies were not true Hindu or Sikh coz they married Muslim men.
so we both have a different experiance.right!
Cheers.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I said:
I have experienced sex with countless Muslimat of various age groups. I have love married a Saiyada. I am in constant touch with todays Muslimat. I think I know them more than even the Muslims know them. The Muslims never tried to understand them is their impression and they love me because they think I understand them more and love them as they are.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Salman Karachi said:
‘You didn’t answer me!
If Muslim men are unable to satisfy their women or they don’t understand their women than how can they understand non-Muslim women? Since if this is the case than not a single Hindu girl should marry a Muslim.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I said:
‘You have understood me totally wrong. Only because the forum is running with communal fools you have placed also me with them.
I’m not of the opinion that all the Muslims are impotent and all the Hindus are Kamsutr specialists.
I’ve written till now only what I’ve seen and realized.
I don’t hate Muslims or Pakistanis.
Hence I don’t need to answer you on the lines you propose.
What I write is only in general.
The Muslims also include Maulana Saiyad Abul Aala Maududi, Dr. Abul Kalam our former President, Sahir Ludhiyanvi the great poet etc. I respect these Muslims more than even the born Hindus. Naturally you can’t assume I think them impotents (nauzbillah!).
I wrote till now only what I experienced.
I don’t want the Muslims should continue to what they are alleged to be.
I want them to be capable enough to solve every problem they face.
I respect Islam, Qur’ano ahadees to the extent I read them as I read Ved. I respect Huzoor(s) very much.
I don’t know what I had written which made you to get me entirely wrong.
yes! I’m in contact with the Muslimat who hate the Muslim males altogether but at the same time they charge me that I behave as if I’m a Muslim more than as if I’m a Hindu.
So my dear friend! you can easily see why I don’t need to answer you on the lines you asked.
I do not mean that at all.
Alhamdulillah!’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I said further:
‘Please go through all my 130 comments,7936 Comments NOW. You will realize my sincerity. The communals use altogether different language.
One can’t hide love and hate altogether!’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Salman Karachi, Pakistan said:
‘Don’t get me wrong but as you have said Muslim girls attracts towards you (if they) because you act like a Muslim and not a Hindu.

If your wife is a Muslim she is no more a Muslim. This is according to the teachings of Islam I am not extremist but these are the basics which cannot be neglected.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I responded:
‘I don’t agree with you. Sorry.
You say you are mot an extremist. Yet, you behave like one.
You say the Muslim girls are attracted to me because I act like a Muslim, but they actually charge me for it that I’m more Muslim than I’m a Hindu. They do not appreciate it. They want me to act like a Hindu. They say a Muslim cannot make love to them without proper nikah, but a Hindu can. So, I should remain Hindu. My wife is a Saiyada and is Panjvaqta Namazi. She is a PhD in Islamic Arabian Literature. In her spare times she reads Qur’ano ahadees and Tareekhe Islami. If she is not Muslim, who is Muslim? Who does not know Arabian even? Who can’t read and understand Qur’an in its original language? She did not have any sexual relations with me till we married, while the other Muslimat compel me to have sex with them. Yet they are Muslimat and my wife is not?
I am unable to understand your logic. My father in law laughed when I told him what you have written. His comment is: The average Muslims are fools. They do not know what Islam really is. Islam is not in names and exhibitions to be a Muslim. You (i.e. I) are a better Muslim than the born ones. You don’t need certificate from Muslims. Allah is enough for you. And he recited:

The Jews say that the Christians have nothing and the Christians say that the Jews have nothing of it, though both read the Scripture. And those who have no knowledge of the Scripture also make similar claims. Allah will surely give His judgment on the Day of Resurrection in all the matters in which they differ.’
Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah:113
‘The fact is that no one has any special claim to Paradise; whoever surrenders himself to Allah in obedience and follows the Right Way, shall get his reward from his Lord: there shall be neither fear nor grief for such people.’
Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah:112
I think my father in law is right.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Salman Karachi, Pakistan said:
‘Sorry I don’t agree with you.
I have never said that if any Muslim girl wants sex with a non-Muslim man than she is a Muslim. Definitely if she commits such act she is out from Islam.
‘And give not (Muslim women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe [al-Baqara 221]

Therefore, it is not allowed for disbeliever to marry a Muslim woman. Allah also says,

‘They (Muslim women) are not lawful for them (the
disbelievers) nor are they (the disbeliever) lawful for them [al-Mumtahana 10]

Now what Quran says is right according to our belief.

Durgesh! I would like to talk to your Father in Law give me any email or something so that I may contact him.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

He said further:
‘I respect every religion and I fell in love with a Sindhi Hindu girl when I was in College I asked her to convert but she refused hence I could not marry her. But she did the right thing we must be on one side rather than in multiple boats.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…
‘Islam is all about belief. You should appreciate the fact that Islam doesn’t allow to have sex before ‘Nikah’ don’t you think that this helps preventing ills in the society. I am sure Hinduism must have some thing like this commandment (though I don’t know much about Hinduism).

Yes! An average Muslim can’t understand Arabic but they can read the translation and I used to read the translation as I also can’t understand Arabic.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I said:
‘I’m sorry you could not get your love. She should have accepted conversion. I think she is a looser. I don’t think she is a monotheist otherwise she would have recognized that going into depth there is no difference between Hinduism as preached in Ved and Islam as preached in Qur’an except only in some matters. These differences are there within even in a religion among its many sects.
I’m really sorry for you that you could not get your love. Did not you go to duaa? I think you could have been blessed.
My father in law does not have any email address. He has not learned even to use a computer nor he is interested.
Hinduism does not have its system belief oriented.
It is result oriented.
Average Hindu does not know what the real Hinduism is. They also follow blindly their priests as the average Muslims do. Real Islam is there in Qur’ano ahadees. Similarly real Hinduism is in Ved.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I further said:
‘I repeat the Aayate kareema you have quoted:
‘And give not (Muslim women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe [al-Baqara 221]’

Who said I’m an idolator? You assumed it. Isn’t it? For your information my dear friend! I am not an idolator. I never worshipped any idol. I belong to a Hindu monotheist family. If you want to learn about Hindu monotheism, go to ‘DSMS’s Weblog@wordpress.com’.
https://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/ved-ved-…
https://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/ved-rgve…
https://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/ved-yaju…

The Aayate Kareema you quoted does not stop a Muslim girl to marry me.
It’s only the wrong interpretations of Islam which are being impeached everywhere not Islam.
I quote here one of my poems:
‘No differences Please!
No differences please!

No differences please! No differences please!
Not racial, not fathial, never one of these!
No gender differences even I would like ever,
If she is a woman I’ll love her, it is clever.
I will give her every right whatever I have,
If she is in trouble, I would like her to save.
If she is a Muslim I’m Hindu if so what?
Together we each other will share every thought.
Don’t try to make us fight, keep both together,
Keep us happy, you will find, nice it is ever.
Don’t make it prestige point, try to make us love,
Humanity, friends, you find overall above.
Let’s laugh to each problem,
Weeping never better,
Even we may solve them if,
We’ll work together.
Let’s try to find everything common we have,
Keep positive ourselves ever, we should behave.
Try to find differences we have lots of them,
Try what we have in common,
Plenty they are same.
Try begin with common, try begin with common
We’ll find happiness thus, we will be in heaven’

One more poem from me:
‘‘Why there are differences among us?

‘Why there are differences among us?
Everybody is making too much fuss.
If I am born in a Hindu family am I responsible for it?
If you are born in a Muslim family are you responsible for it?
If he is born in a Christian family is he responsible?
If she is born in a Jew family is she responsible?
Why can’t we intermarry if we please?
Why can’t we date each other if we please?
Are we all not descendants of Adam and Eve?
If it is not so why do you pretend to believe?
Tear up your divine books if you don’t have any faith in them.
Burn them all if you don’t need any more of them.
Stop the hypocrisy of going church every Sunday.
Stop the hypocrisy of reading Namāz five times a day.
Reciting of Mantrs in the Mandirs haven’t made you a human being if,
Shame on you that you even now claim your belief.
Ved Bible and Qur’an all teach us humanity.
Are their teachings now for you mere futility?
‘We one our nest one’ I’ve found in our divine books.
Please don’t destroy our nest allowing differences and crooks.
Follow the path of love every divine book does preach.
Prosperity and true happiness will not be then out of reach.’
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Salman Karachi, Pakistan responded:
‘The bottom-line what I want to convey that Islam does not allow a marriage between a Muslim woman and non-Muslim man and if some one marries a non-Muslim than it is an individual act which should not be related with the teachings of Islam.’
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I said:
‘Your bottom line does not coincide with the teachings of Al Qur’an Al Kareem. You are interpreting it communally. Get over with it my dear! Islam is not a communal religion as it has been interpreted widely by the Muslim Badshahs. They used Islam for their vested political interests. Get over with it. You are also given wisdom. Read Qur’ano ahadees yourself in their original words and interpret them yourself as they don’t clash with each other. The wrong interpretations are not representing true Islam. Huzoor(S) has not interpreted them as they are being interpreted now. Be brave man! Do justice with the great religion you are born in. Islam is for humanity not against humanity.’
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Salman Karachi, Pakistan said:
‘Durgesh!
I have given you the references from Quran see the Translation below:
‘And give not (Muslim women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe’[al-Baqara 221]

‘They (Muslim women) are not lawful for them (the
disbelievers) nor are they (the disbeliever) lawful for them’[al-Mumtahana 10]

There is no interpretation required, these are clear words. There is a difference between universal truth and personal illusions and these are the basics of Islam.’
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I said:
‘I have already answered your point but perhaps you have not read it carefully.
O.K. Let’s discuss the original Aayate Kareema you have resorted to:
‘Wa Laa tankihulmushrikaati’
‘Don’t marry the women who share others with Allah in their worship.’
‘Hattaa Yu’minn’
‘Until they bring Eimaan.’
‘Wa laa Tunkihul-Mushrikeen’
‘Don’t marry your women with Mushrikeen’
‘Hatta Yu’minoo’
‘Until they bring Eimaan’.
The part concerned is:
‘Wa laa Tunkihul-Mushrikeen”Hatta Yu’minoo”Don’t marry your women with Mushrikeen”Until they bring Eimaan’.
The problem is that you think any male who does not have a Muslim Arabic name is bound to be a polytheist, he cannot be a monotheist.
Qur’an puts the condition of monotheism and belief that ‘Laa ilaah illillah Muhammadurrasoolillah’. You persons go one step ahead more.
You put the condition that he must have an Arabic Muslim name also. It is not written in Qur’an. It is your interpretation.
If you still differ with it, you can give your reasons.’
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Salman Karachi, Pakistan said:
‘It is not necessary that a Muslim should have a Muslim name let’s say I give you the examples of Bangladesh (East Pakistan) cricket players their names are “Rajin” and “Tushar” but they are Muslims so there is no such interpretation.’
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Sidrah Bombay, India intervened:
‘Who are you to judge his wife’s faith and to decide whether or not she is Muslim? Tell me one thing frankly. How many times in a day do you offer namaz? How much of the Quran do you read daily? How often do you remember Allah SWT in your everyday life? How much of the Islamic laws and practises do you, yourself, actually follow? When it’s strictly forbidden for a Muslim to lie, do you always speak the truth? When slander and backbiting is strongly forbidden, haven’t you ever done so? Search into your own soul first and ask yourself whether you’re true to your faith, whether you’re indeed a Muslim yourself, before pointing fingers at the faith of others.’
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I asked Salman:
‘Then how do you say my wife is not a Muslim?’
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Sidrah said to me:
‘If, by his reasoning, your wife is not Muslim, then by the same reasoning, he is not Muslim either. He knows that, too, yet some people just cannot give up being ardent hypocrites.’
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atif Lahore, Pakistan interfered:
‘ur charecter should be great under burqa. allaha sy daro dnya say nahi. i love my sisters who wear burqa. wsslaam.’
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Salman Karachi, Pakistan responded:
‘I m no one to judge any one’s faith neither I m pointing figure but you both are mixing it up if you talk about me I don’t want to express but Alhamdullilah I offer prayers 5 times a day, yes not daily but I read Quran couple of times in a week its up to you if you call me a hypocrite I wont mind.
There is logical reasoning for every thing first of all why you punish a criminal? Answer is to set an example for the others so that they should not follow the footsteps of a criminal. Secondly it’s not about names it’s about beliefs Hindus believe on Idols do Muslims believe on idols? Look at above Aayats Allah says that Muslim woman can’t marry a disbeliever. Yes I would find a concrete evidence for the penalty of such acts.

I admit that I am a very weak Muslim may Allah forgive me but again I would say that if you are lying, backbiting or doing any illegal act it’s your own act your individual act and you should not say that it is allowed in Islam. do what ever you want but then if you commit a act which really disgrace Islam than you have no right to say proudly that u r a Muslim.’
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I thanked Sidrah:
‘Thanks Sidra!
Salman! I wait for your Islamic answer according to Qur’ano ahadeese Muqaddasat.
I am unable how do you people decide about anybody’s Eiman and announce fatwas so boldly.’
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Then I responded to Salman Karachi Pakistan:
‘Who is disgracing Islam and how? A person is claiming she is a Muslim. And she is really a better Muslim than even you are. She is a PhD in Arabic Islamic literature. You are not.
Why she did PhD in Arabic Islamic literature, if she is not a Muslim? Why she did not do it in Hinduism or atheism?
You are not a PhD in Arabic Islamic literature yet you are a Muslim and she is not? What a logic!
You yourself accept you do not pray five times a day–she does, yet, she is not a Muslim, and you are? Great!
She should pay like Benazeer paid for being a Muslim woman! Isn’t it?
These are Muslims! Dying to throw a Muslima out of Islam as if Islam is their father’s property!
Bravo!’
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To Atif Lahore Pakistan, I responded:
‘Character must be great of Muslimat only. Not of Muslims! Isn’t it? Read what Sidra has written.
Islam is property of Muslim males only! They will tell Allah on Aakhirat who is Muslim and who is not!
Allah will not decide it, they will decide!
And they say they are following Qur’ano ahadees! Better than Muslimat!
What a joke!’
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Then I responded to Sidrah’s comment:
‘Sidra wrote:
<quoted text>
‘Who are you to judge his wife’s faith and to decide whether or not she is Muslim? Tell me one thing frankly. How many times in a day do you offer namaz? How much of the Quran do you read daily? How often do you remember Allah SWT in your everyday life? How much of the Islamic laws and practises do you, yourself, actually follow? When it’s strictly forbidden for a Muslim to lie, do you always speak the truth? When slander and backbiting is strongly forbidden, haven’t you ever done so? Search into your own soul first and ask yourself whether you’re true to your faith, whether you’re indeed a Muslim yourself, before pointing fingers at the faith of others.’

I said:

‘She is absolutely right.
Sidra! I thank you again.’
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Sidrah Bombay, India asked Salman:
‘In what way have I disgraced Islam? And in what way have you honored Islam? You, yourself, admit you are a “weak Muslim,” yet you want to place yourself on the judge’s seat and play the role of judge and executioner. I suggest you try putting your own house in order first, before pointing fingers at others.

Tell me, in what way are you better than somebody like, let’s say, Durgesh Jabalpur’s wife? The way I see it, if we take into account what he has said, she’s a much better practising Muslim than you are. The only “flaw” in her, it would seem, is that she has married a Hindu man. So, you mean to say that because of that, she is not a Muslim, and just because you have not gone through an interfaith marriage, even though you’re not steadfast in your religious practises, even though you’re a weak Muslim in your own words, you’re better off than her in every possible way? It’s ridiculous to think of it.

It’s certainly wrong to call a person that is steadfast in prayer a kaafir, and I fail to understand how you can be certain that her namaz and ibaadat are not being accepted, while yours is. What makes you think you’re better off in Allah SWT’s eyes than her? But of course, you haven’t married a kaafir, and that does make you superior to others like her, doesn’t it? That too, even if you’re far behind her in regular prayer.

If you’re really so bothered about instances like this, perhaps you should start asking yourself the question as to why it’s happening, find out the cause of it, and try to eradicate that cause. I’m sure, if you searched earnestly, you’d realize why Muslim women have started opting for non-Muslim partners. Somewhere, there’s something lacking for sure, but typical of Muslim male chauvinism, rather than accept your own shortcomings, you’re obviously going to pin the blame on the girl.

All I ask for is a change in the attitudes and mindset of the Muslim males. Today, to cite just one example, a Muslim girl can rarely pass through a Muslim locality without having to undergo countless lewd gazes, at times teasing, or similar uncalled-for actions from young Muslim males. Incidentally, these men are supposed to be protectors of the girl’s honor, in accordance with Islamic texts, but more than often, these very men are at the forefront in doing and thinking otherwise. I’ve lived in Muslim localities much of my life, and I have to admit that I really feel ashamed and insecure to be walking down the streets, when I should have had a sense of total security instead in the first place. You don’t find this in other localities. Chasing girls seems to be the top priority of Muslim males nowadays. Wouldn’t it be better off if, instead, they were to change their attitudes, open up, have a decent education, put it to good use, and try to live decent, progressive lives, rather than hang around in the streets in groups doing nothing worthy?

Finally, I don’t need you to read me what I have the right to do and what I haven’t. I’m proud to be Muslim, and I always will be proud to be Muslim. It’s a feeling that comes from deep inside and, by the Grace of Allah SWT, nothing’s ever going to change that feeling.’
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I responded:
‘Sidra is again absolutely right.
I thank you again, Sidra!’
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sheppy New Delhi, India interfered:
‘agr yehi hai to phir tumhare saadhu sant to khule aam aurto ko chodte hai uska kya’
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I asked:
‘Kis Saadhu ne, kis Sant ne, kab, kahan, khule aam ayraton ko choda?’
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Salman said:
‘First of all I never said that I do not offer prayers 5 times a day! Read my post again.
Secondly a religion is a set of rules. These rules are defined and we have to obey those rules. Yes Durgesh’s wife is a PhD in Islamic studies but how can she miss such a basic rule?
It’s not me who is enforcing my decision, this is Islamic law there are some crimes for which there is less penalty and for bigger crimes there are large punishments.
It is not permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a kaafir (non-Muslim), whether he is Jewish, Christian or an idol-worshipper, because the man has authority over his wife, and it is not permissible for a kaafir to have authority over a Muslim woman.Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone)”[al-Baqarah 2:221]

“And never will Allaah grant to the disbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers”[al-Nisaa’ 4:141]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:“Islam should prevail and should not be prevailed over.”

If a Muslim woman marries a kaafir when she knows the ruling, then she is a zaaniyah (adulteress), and her punishment is the punishment for adultery. If she was ignorant of the ruling then she is excused, but they must be separated, and there is no need for a divorce because the marriage is null and void. On this basis, the Muslim woman whom Allaah has honored with Islam and her guardian must beware of that and must adhere to the limits set by Allaah, and they must feel proud of Islam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Those who take disbelievers for Awliyaa’(protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honour, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allaah belongs all honor, power and glory”[al-Nisaa’ 4:139]

In the end I would again say that I m no one to judge but these are the rules.Do what you want but if you are doing against the Islamic law than tell me who are you to say that look i m a Muslim and I don’t obey the rules. There are some ethical and moral values.’
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Salman further said to Sidrah:
‘Sidra! You gave your decision about my being a hypocrite but you didn’t ask a single question to the person who started this thread with a title which is disgracing Muslim women.
I m really surprised!’
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He went on further:
‘Those Muslim men who are chasing women and doing nothing worthy are equally responsible and we as a Muslim should be ashamed of what they are doing but should we also become the part of mob which is going against Islam shouldn’t we set a example for them to follow?

I am afraid that this is not a justification that if Muslim men are not following Islam so that women should marry non Muslims saying that since men are not educated and financially strong hence we will go against the teachings of Islam and marry non-Muslims without converting them.’
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Then he said to me:
‘Durgesh!
The murder of Benazir Bhutto is a political murder. She had been the PM of Pakistan twice means you are again mistaking by relating it with Islam.’
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I responded:
‘I never said the murder of Benazeer is associated with Islam. After so long discussions one after another you do not understand me even a bit.
Go thrugh all my more than 250 comments and tell me which of them is associating any wickedness with Islam. You can’t find even a single one of them.
You have again written me a Kaafir which shows you are totally unable to understand me. I’m not Mushrik nor Kafir. I’m a Hindu monotheist. I respect Qur’an, Islam, and Huzoor(s). Thank God! you are not Allah. Otherwise you would have put me into dozakh till now.
Call me Kafir if it suits you.
I only pray may God bless you with wisdom and may God raise you above Firqaparasti.
You haven’t understood Islam beyond the firqaparasti imposed on it. You haven’t any courage even. Benazeer was murdered as Raziya Sultana was. Both were killed on the name of islam but not for Islam–for the vested political interests of the murderers. They were most helpless women of the world–Muslim women–according to Dr. BR Ambedkar(Pakistan or Partttion of India).
My wife says ‘Thank Allah! we are not in Pakistan. We are in India’.’
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I further responded to Salman:
‘Salman wrote:
Those Muslim men who are chasing women and doing nothing worthy are equally responsible and we as a Muslim should be ashamed of what they are doing but should we also become the part of mob which is going against Islam shouldn’t we set a example for them to follow?
I am afraid that this is not a justification that if Muslim men are not following Islam so that women should marry non Muslims saying that since men are not educated and financially strong hence we will go against the teachings of Islam and marry non-Muslims without converting them.’

I said sarcastically:
‘But they are Muslims anyway! Because they are males not females!They are serving Islam. The males will be judged by a different criteria and the females by different. This is the Islam you have understood. Thank God! It is not the real Islam full of gross injustices against the faultless persons!’
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I further said:
‘I am afraid that this is not a justification that if Muslim men are not following Islam so that women should marry non Muslims saying that since men are not educated and financially strong hence we will go against the teachings of Islam and marry non-Muslims without converting them.’

What a logic! If the Muslim men are not following Islam they are still Muslim.
Great!
Quote some Aayate Kareema to the effect if you can find it.’
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‘Those Muslim men who are chasing women and doing nothing worthy are equally responsible and we as a Muslim should be ashamed of what they are doing.’

that’s all. We should be ashamed of them. But we will still continue to call them Muslims and believing that they will get Jannat. After all, they are males not females.
Females will not be forgiven for anything they do and the males will be never punished for anything they do. This is the understanding of Islam you are conveying! Great!

but should we also become the part of mob which is going against Islam shouldn’t we set a example for them to follow?’
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‘but should we also become the part of mob which is going against Islam shouldn’t we set a example for them to follow?’

And what is the example proposed? Call the Muslim women non Muslim?’
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Sidrah responded to it:
‘They do have an example to follow – in Prophet Muhammad (SAW). If they cannot reform themselves by his example, what makes you think your setting an example is going to make any difference?

Yes, it is sort of a justification, and the Muslim male is to blame for it. Today, Muslim men occupy the lowest rungs of society – academically and financially – and the icing on the cake is their narrow way of thinking. Now, I’m not talking about the few that have succeeded in life, but the average Muslim male, in general, lacks a decent education; is financially insecure; if he is financially well off, he’s usually not educated; and you’ll find the uncultured lot in abundance. Yet, most worrying is the Muslim male’s perceptions on women, which are too narrow and restrictive, and his demeanor towards them is more or less pathetic to say the least.

Every woman desires a good life and, from my point of view, I fail to perceive what woman would be happy with a man like this. Still, I do not say that Muslim women should seek kaafir men as partners, and I certainly do not promote it, nor do I encourage it. However, that said, if a Muslim women were to do so, I wouldn’t condemn it either. Plus, she certainly wouldn’t be a kaafir to me, not unless she actually changed her faith.

Finally, let me tell you one thing. I’m married to a kaafir myself. I’ve been for the last six years. Do I regret it? Not in the least bit. I couldn’t have asked for a happier life. Yet, I practise my religion earnestly. I offer salat five times a day. I recite the Quran several times a day. I fast through the month of Ramadan. I never bow to anybody besides Allah SWT, not even my husband’s idols, and by His Grace, I never will.

There’s a lot more I can add to that list, but I do not want to send out the wrong impression that I’m trying to blow my own trumpet.

So, if somebody were to tell me, despite this, that I was a kaafir, I would definitely give that person a piece of my mind. I know I’m Muslim, as much as I’m proud to be one.’
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I said:
‘Bravo Sidra! One thing out of context. My wife has thanked you for presenting her case on Internet so skillfully. And I too want to thank you for it. Please note, we both are intensely grateful to you and will remain so.’
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Sidrah responded:
‘What I did, I did for myself. I wanted to send out my message, and I did. I don’t believe there’s anything for you to feel grateful about. Nevertheless, I thank you for the support you’ve shown me all along.’
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I said:
‘You are a very good and lovable person. Please enlist me and my wife in your friends‘ list.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…Sidrah asked:
‘What do you mean by enlisting you?’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…I clarified:
‘Don’t get me wrong! I mentioned my wife also! I respect you. It was nothing sinister! It was only an expression of gratitude. Forget it if you don’t like it, and sorry! if it really conveyed something sinister! I did not mean it. I’ll never mean anything sinister to a person like you.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…Sidrah said:
‘Relax. I never believed it was anything sinister. I just wanted to know if by “enlisting,” you meant adding you to a messenger list or something of the sort.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…I said:
‘It was and is only an offer of true friendship. You can accept or reject it.’
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Sidrah said:
‘I have no issues accepting it.’
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lol lingum Owings Mills, MD Double AAAA?, interfered:
‘Worship me:)’
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I smiled at the idiot:
‘Only because you worship me? Sorry! You keep on. I can’t.’
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Salman Karachi, Pakistan asked:
‘When did I say that those Muslim men who are going against the teachings of Islam are pious?
Let me clear this once again, if a Muslim man marries a Christian or Jew woman than it is not necessary to convert her BUT it would be better if he converts her and for any idol worshipper woman he must convert her.
But it is not allowed for Muslim women to marry any non-Muslim to marry with out converting him.And if she decides to marry a non-Muslim man than he is committing ‘Zina’(unlawful sexual relationship).
Now these are the rulings if any one doesn’t want to obey them it’s his/her headache but these are not my rules these are agreed upon Islamic rules which needs to be followed.’
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I told him:
‘Agreed Political Islamic Rules.
Islam is not Politics.
Islam is Far much greater than what you are conceiving it is.
I and my wife both do not need your foolish certificate for our Eiman.
They are persons like you who are sending the Muslim women like my wife Saiyada Fatima PhD in Arabic Islamic Literature in complete loss of any expectations from Muslim males.
They don’t want to come out of Communal Political system of Islam devised by then so called Muslim Badshahs to suit their vested political interests.
The person as great as Akbar was forced to devise a new religion Dine Ilahi due to the persons like you.
You struggle to throw away even genuine Muslims even better in practice than you, till you succeed or die.
Well, keep it on.
The sophisticated Muslimat like my wife, and Sidrah, have already found the way to get rid off the persons like you.
Only because Islam was used politically for a long long time by Muslim Badshahs to suit their then vested political interests you think only that is the real Islam.
What is conversion?
Conversion of heart or conversion of appearances? Conversion of Exhibitions?
You choose second.
We choose the first.
I think me a better Hindu and a better Muslim than even you are and if you think I am a Kafir, go ahead and prepare yourself for roze mahshar where my hands will be on your collars in front of Allah and Rasoole Arabi(S) both.
‘The Jews say that the Christians have nothing and the Christians say that the Jews have nothing of it, though both read the Scripture. And those who have no knowledge of the Scripture also make similar claims. Allah will surely give His judgment on the Day of Resurrection in all the matters in which they differ.’
–Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 113
‘The fact is that no one has any special claim to Paradise; whoever surrenders himself to Allah in obedience and follows the Right Way, shall get his reward from his Lord: there shall be neither fear nor grief for such people.’
–Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 112
‘wala taAAthaw fee al-ardi mufsideena’
Do not spread disorder on earth.
―Al Qur’an Al Majeed 2 Al Baqarah: 60.

‘Whenever it is said to them, “Spread not disorder on the earth”, their reply is, “We only seek to put things aright”.
― Al Qur’ān Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 11
‘Beware! They do spread disorder but they realize it not.’
― Al Qur’ān Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 12′
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AAAA Jeddah, Saudi Arabia said:
‘you guys always quote out of the context and spread fake information dear enemy of islam.
i repeat again can you answere the below .

“They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti — the material cause of the world — in place of the All-pervading God, BUT THOSE WHO WORSHIP VISIBLE THINGS BORN OF THE PRAKRTI, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.” — Yajur Veda 40:9.’
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He asked further:
‘can you justify the below
LORD KRSNA MARRIES 16,000 WIVES & THEN DESTROYS HIS OWN FAMILY TO DEPOPULATE THE EARTH

Lord Krsna must be seriously lacking foresight to screw so many gopis, overpopulate the earth & then destroy his own family for weighing down the earth:

“Krsna became a householder (head of a household) in Dvaraka and married many wives, and had many sons and grandsons. In the race of the Yadus, no one was poor; everyone had many children, lived a long life, and respected Brahmins. But they were so numerous that one could not count them even in a hundred years. The terrible demons who had been slain in the battle of the gods and demons were born among men, and so at the command of Visnu the gods became incarnate in the race of Yadus to repress the demons…. When Krsna had killed the demons, and thus relieved the burden of the earth, he thought,’The earth is still overburdened by the unbearably burdensome race of the Yadus. No one else can overcome them, since they are under my protection.’… Deluded by Krsna’s power of delusion, and cursed by the Brahmins, they were all destroyed, and when his entire family had been destroyed, Krsna said,’The burden has been removed.’ ” — Srimad Bhagavatam 10:90:27-44; 11:1:1-4; 11:30:1-25.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

It was answered later on separately:
Why did Lord Kr’shn marry 16,100 Sheikhzadis?:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TII…

Why does Ved support Polygamy?

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TL6…

AAAA went on further:
‘Durgesh, i have post some question for you but no reply , why are you running away from me. if you have any points quote with authentic REF & don’t quote out of the context like you country writer ARUN SHOURIE does. This is message from a BELIEVER.I M Servant of ALLAH.

“And do not marry Al-Mushrikaat (idolatresses) till they believe (worship Allaah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to ;Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember”
[al-Baqarah 2:221]’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

AAAA said further:
‘Islam says women and men are equal not identical.

for you information we WORSHIP THE CREATOR NOT THE CREATED, when you own holy book says to you why you don’t believe.
“They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti — the material cause of the world — in place of the All-pervading God, BUT THOSE WHO WORSHIP VISIBLE THINGS BORN OF THE PRAKRTI, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.” — Yajur Veda 40:9.

durgesh i m having many question for you & confused muslims who are not having knowledge of islam from authentic sources.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Then AAAA declared:
‘this is where your girls stand.
. Western society falsely claims to have uplifted women
Western talk of women’s liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of
exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul, and deprivation of her honour.
Western society claims to have ‘uplifted’ women. On the contrary it has actually
degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies
who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers,
hidden behind the colourful screen of ‘art’ and ‘culture’.’
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Salman Karachi, Pakistan said:
‘Durgesh!
You asked about conversions, you told me what is conversion; what do you think who is a Muslim? Can a Muslim worship idols? Are these rules wrong? And if you think that these rules are my interpretation provide me the Aayat or a Quranic verse where Allah said that Muslim women should marry non-Muslim men.
It’s good if you have accepted Islam but you cannot ride in 2 boats. Why don’t you condemn the title of this thread?
Individual Interpretation of a religion for satisfying your needs is always wrong.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I replied AAAA first:
‘I have asked so many times what is your question about the Ved Mantr you quoted?
You just quote it and ask me to answer.
What is your question?
What is there you think objectionable?
Put you question and get the answer.
Since despite my repeated questions you are not putting your question on the concerned Ved Mantr, it seems you are running away from me, not me from you.
How can anyone answer your question till you don’t ask him?
You just quote the Ved Mantr and ask me to answer it.
What is there to answer?
Where is your question on the Ved Mantr?’
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AAAA said:
‘the below is asked you in a simple English language not ARABIC which is our mother tongue.
“They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti — the material cause of the world — in place of the All-pervading God, BUT THOSE WHO WORSHIP VISIBLE THINGS BORN OF THE PRAKRTI, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.” — Yajur Veda 40:9.

WHEN IT IS CLEARLY SAID TO YOU NOT TO WORSHIP THE CREATED , WORSHIP THE CREATOR.
then why you people worship the created, i mean all the disbelievers.

this i m quoting from your holybook.

HASBI ALLAH MIN NAIMAL VAKIL’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I replied:
‘You are quite right.
Ask the idolaters why they do it.
I never did it, neither my family, nor any one of my ancestors.
I’m a monotheist Hindu.
Moreover, you have not quoted the intense Ved Mantr against idolatory.
Perhaps you even don’t know it.
I quote it here:
‘Na tasy’ pratima asti yasy’ naam mahadyashah’.
‘There is no idol of Him whose glory verily is great.’.
Yajurved 32|3
Ved does not support any idol worship. It is a later invent.
In entire vast book of Ved, idol is mentioned only once and even that in negation.
Ved is a total monotheistic Book.
In my own personal view Ved is the everfirst book of Islam, still in its undistorted original form . They have distorted its translations and interpretations to suit their vile purposes but the original grand monotheistic text is still there.
I see Ved and remember this Aayate Kareema from Al Qur’an Al Kareem:
‘Fabiayyi aala’i rabbikuma, tukazzibani?’
‘Which of the bounties of your Lord will you twain then deny?’ 55 Arrahman 13,16,18,21,23,25,28,30,32,34, 36,38,40,,42,45,47,49,51,53,55 ,57,59,61,63,65,67
69,71,73,75,77.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I further replied:
‘I go on quoting an important Ved Mantr more.
It preaches the Oneness of God profoundly.

‘Indram mitram varuñamagnimaahurathodivyah s’ suparño garutmaan,
ekam sadvipraa bahudhaa vadantyagnim yamam matarishv&aanamahuh.’

‘They call Him Indr, Mitr; Varun’, Agni-Divine is He Suparñ, Garutmaan.
The noble persons with wisdom call One Existence in many ways. They call Agni, Yam, Maatarishvan.’
– Ved1R/1/164/46.
Should I repeat:
‘Fabiayyi aala’i rabbikuma, tukazzibani?’
‘Which of the bounties of your Lord will you twain then deny?’
Al Qur’an Al Kareem:55 Arrahman 13,16,18,21,23,25,28,30,32,34, 36,38,40,,42,45,47,49,51,53,55 ,57,59,61,63,65,67
69,71,73,75,77.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Sidrah Bombay, India asked:
‘Can I have a word with you? Is there any way of sending a PM or something on this board?’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I responded:
‘Get my email address: satyarthi.dsm@gmail.com
You are most welcome.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Then I responded to Salman:
‘Salman! You have asked:
‘Can a Muslim worship idols?’
My answer is:
‘No. A big no! All the idol worshipers are not Muslims whoever they are.
There is no question about it.
Moreover, according to Ved, they are not even Hindus.
Interesting!
Isn’t it?
Your next question:
‘Are these rules wrong?’
My answer:
NO!
Every law provided in Ved & Qur’an is final and supreme to me.
Your next question:
‘And if you think that these rules are my interpretation–‘
I don’t think so. You have quoted Aayaate Kareemat. It decides the matter once and for all.
Any person who accepts the authority of Qur’an can’t deny it.
I accept the authority of Qur’an. I have already told you that.
The question is who is Muslim.
You deny my and my wife’s Eiman.
I differ with you absolutely, and so my wife.
The problem lies here.
You think every interpretations of Qur’ano ahadees done by Muslim Badshahs or for them are true Islam.
We refuse to degrade Islam to the extent and as so condemn every attempt profoundly.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

‘You have written:’It’s good if you have accepted Islam but you cannot ride in 2 boats.’
No! I have not accepted Islam. I am born in it.
I was never an idolater.
I never shared anyone with the God.
I believe in profound Oneness of God right from the day I became able to understand something and it was taught to me by my father, a great monotheist Hindu.
I am not riding in two boats.
Hinduism and Islam are not two boats at all as per Ved and Qur’an. It is profound stupidity of The so called Hindus and the so called Muslims that they don’t consult their own books of God and quarrel with each other foolishly.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Salman said:
‘Durgesh!
My friend I just want to say that I m no one to judge any one’s Iman it is a matter which must be decided by Allah. But what I have under stood after talking to you that you believe on one God but you said that you are a Hindu at the same time; but there are some other believes in Islam which differs from Hinduism so how can you say that both the religions are same?
For example Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) crushed the idols after the conquest of Macca so being a Hindu can you do this?(Again I would say don’t get me wrong and I m not giving any Muslim king example I m giving the example of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)).’
Durgesh!
My friend I just want to say that I m no one to judge any one’s Iman it is a matter which must be decided by Allah. But what I have under stood after talking to you that you believe on one God but you said that you are a Hindu at the same time; but there are some other believes in Islam which differs from Hinduism so how can you say that both the religions are same?
For example Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) crushed the idols after the conquest of Macca so being a Hindu can you do this?(Again I would say don’t get me wrong and I m not giving any Muslim king example I m giving the example of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)).
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

‘I think the biggest confusion you have is saying that religions are different will led to a war between religions which is wrong. We don’t need to fight on religion but at the same time religions are different which doesn’t mean that people should fight on religion.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I replied:
‘No! I am not confused at all.
The difference of opinion arises because we don’t mean the same thing when we use the words already very much in use.
I believe the religion is what our divine books preach, not that we believe and practice.
When I use the word Hinduism I always mean what the Ved preaches, irrespective of what the so called Hindus believe, practice, or preach.
Their wishes are not Hinduism.
It is not my self devised definition of Hinduism.
Ved claims:
‘svayambhooryathatathyatoartha – nvyadadhachchhashvateebhyah samabhyah’

‘The Self Existent has constituted the values for eternal subjects forever according to facts.’
-Ved:2Y: 40/8.

Manusmr’ti supports it:
‘Vedo’khilo dharmmoolam’
‘The entire Ved is the root of Dharm.’
Manusmr’ti 2|6

‘Dharmjigyasmananam pramanam paramam Shrutih’.
‘For the persons who want to know what the Dharm is, Ved is the absolute criteria.’
Manusmr’ti 2|13

You don’t believe it.
You believe Hinduism is what you find in the practices of the so called Hindus.
It is the fundamental difference of opinion we two have between us.
Till we have this fundamental difference there will always be this or that differences between our discussions.
We will never agree with each other.
Similarly, I believe Islam is what Qur’ano ahadeese muqaddasat tell us, not what Muslims believe, do and practice.
You differ with me here also.
You believe Islam is what interpreted by the Muslim Badshahs or for them also.
I differ with you strongly and fundamentally.
It brings all the other differences between us about Islam and Muslims.
The difference of opinion will always be there as we differ in our fundamental definitions.
Sorry! but it is the actual truth.
Sorry to differ with you so profoundly.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I went on to reply Salman:
‘Salman wrote:
Durgesh!
My friend I just want to say that I m no one to judge any one’s Iman it is a matter which must be decided by Allah. But what I have under stood after talking to you that you believe on one God but you said that you are a Hindu at the same time; but there are some other believes in Islam which differs from Hinduism so how can you say that both the religions are same?
For example Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) crushed the idols after the conquest of Macca so being a Hindu can you do this?(Again I would say don’t get me wrong and I m not giving any Muslim king example I m giving the example of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)).’

I told:
‘Again the same objection that I have already answered.
When I say I am a Hindu, I do not mean that I am an Idol worshiper.
I hate idol worship.
According to Ved Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma, i.e. the God, has no idol at all.
You find an image of idol worshiper as soon as you hear the word Hindu.
That is the trouble between us.
We don’t mean same thing by the word Hindu.
The definition of Hindu is not my self devised definition.
It is written in Sanskr’t dictionaries.
Shabd Kalpdrum states:
‘Hindurdushtnr’h prokto’naary’neetividooshakah
Saddharmpaalako Vidvan Shrautdharmparaayanah.’
‘A Hindu is the one who never compromise with a wicked. He abolishes the wicked policies. He practices the religion of existence. He is full of wisdom. He is efficient in Dharm as preached in Ved.’
The other definitions of Hindu also follow this dictionary meaning:
‘Hinsaya dooyate chittam yasy’ tadapi hinasti dushtan yah s’ Hindurityabhidheeyate.’
‘One whose conscience does not feel at ease at violence but nevertheless he kills a wicked is called a Hindu.’
You do not accept these authentic definitions of a Hindu and I am adamant that these are the only authentic definitions of a Hindu. I am Hindu according to these authentic definitions. Whenever I claim to be Hindu I always refer to these authentic definitions, not to an idolater.
You can see yourself there is nothing to associate idolatry with Hinduism in these definitions.
The rest of the answer is coninued in next box.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

AAAA interfered:
‘then you are a communist or you are living in a confused state, Make up your mind?
And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad, Peace Be
Upon Him) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and
follows other than the believers'(Ummah/Sahaba) ways. We shall keep
him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell – what an evil
destination.(Surah An-Nisaa 4:115)’
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‘The name hindu is given by a muslim you can read you counrty history if you want.in the book “discovery of india”. and one of indian writer viveknanda has also mention that name ‘hindu plays a misnoma. the actual name should be “Vedantist”. the people who lived on the other side of the river Indus are called HINDUS. that is what is your country history, so make up your mind. don’t be hypocrites and think with a open Mind.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

He repeated:
‘how can you justify this?

LORD KRSNA MARRIES 16,000 WIVES & THEN DESTROYS HIS OWN FAMILY TO DEPOPULATE THE EARTH

Lord Krsna must be seriously lacking foresight to screw so many gopis, overpopulate the earth & then destroy his own family for weighing down the earth:

“Krsna became a householder (head of a household) in Dvaraka and married many wives, and had many sons and grandsons. In the race of the Yadus, no one was poor; everyone had many children, lived a long life, and respected Brahmins. But they were so numerous that one could not count them even in a hundred years. The terrible demons who had been slain in the battle of the gods and demons were born among men, and so at the command of Visnu the gods became incarnate in the race of Yadus to repress the demons…. When Krsna had killed the demons, and thus relieved the burden of the earth, he thought,’The earth is still overburdened by the unbearably burdensome race of the Yadus. No one else can overcome them, since they are under my protection.’… Deluded by Krsna’s power of delusion, and cursed by the Brahmins, they were all destroyed, and when his entire family had been destroyed, Krsna said,’The burden has been removed.’ ” — Srimad Bhagavatam 10:90:27-44; 11:1:1-4; 11:30:1-25.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Why did Lord Kr’shn marry 16,100 Sheikhzadis?:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TII…

Why does Ved support Polygamy?:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TL6…

I said:
‘For example Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) crushed the idols after the conquest of Macca so being a Hindu can you do this?(Again I would say don’t get me wrong and I m not giving any Muslim king example I m giving the example of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)).

Hindu tradition differs here profoundly.
We respect what Huzoor(S) did.
He was the apostle of the God.
He did knew better what he(S) was doing.
We,the normal persons do not have any right to criticize the great revolutionist(S) of his time.
We should only try to understand what he did and why he would have done it.
Then we should follow him(S) according to Al Qur’an Al Majeed.
We do not have any right to contradict or criticize him(S).
He(S) was bestowed with Meraj. We are not.
He(S) knew more than us.
He(S)sacrificed his life fighting against evil.
Nevertheless, Hindu tradition differs here.
Mind you! I’m telling Hindu tradition! not Hinduism!
There are many persons who are adamant that every Hindu tradition is Hinduism.
I don’t.
Hindu tradition is to explain the person what the real truth is. Explain him/her everything in quite detail. But never compel him to do anything against her/his wishes.
We convince one that idol worship is not preached in Ved.
Ved preaches Meditation.
We explain what is wrong in idol worship and what is better in meditation.
Yet, the ultimate decision rests with her/him.
We do not compel anyone to change one’s faith.
We never insist.
He/she has her/his own reasoning.
We will discuss with one for years, but will never compel.
The decision must be hers/his.
It does not mean that we criticize Huzoor(s) for His(S) crushing of idols.
No! We don’t think we have any right to.
He(S) understood more what he(S) did.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

Salman Karachi, Pakistan said:
‘You don’t have to say sorry. Actually I like this conversation, any ways you said
“Similarly, I believe Islam is what Qur’ano ahadeese muqaddasat tell us, not what Muslims believe, do and practice”.

What Muslims do is according to Islam. There are things which they don’t practice (which is wrong) but Islam is not just a religion it is a complete code of life and as a Muslim you have to implement Islam in your life for example if you don’t offer prayers means that you are saying. that “ok I believe on Islam but I don’t want to offer prayers and I believe that offering prayers means that I m showing that I m a Muslim where as it is better to be a Muslim from Inside”.

Similarly if you don’t practice Hinduism that is also wrong if you are a Hindu.
About Namaz Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) said that “the only difference between a believer and a non-believer is Namaz”.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/T8I…

I replied AAAA first:
‘You have written:
then you are a communist or you are living in a confused state, Make up your mind?’
I am unable to follow your reasoning!
Do you know what a communist is?
I am confident you don’t.
I am giving you a web address. Click it to know what a communist is first, then we will discuss on this point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist
‘or you are living in a confused state.’
No! I am not! I am quite clear! There is no confusion at all.
My mind is already made up.
‘And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad, Peace Be
Upon Him) after the right path has been shown clearly to him.’
I am neither contradicting nor opposing Huzoor(S).
‘The Jews say that the Christians have nothing and the Christians say that the Jews have nothing of it, though both read the Scripture. And those who have no knowledge of the Scripture also make similar claims. Allah will surely give His judgment on the Day of Resurrection in all the matters in which they differ.’
Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 113
‘The fact is that no one has any special claim to Paradise; whoever surrenders himself to Allah in obedience and follows the Right Way, shall get his reward from his Lord: there shall be neither fear nor grief for such people.’
Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 112
‘wala ta’asaw fl-arzi mufsideen’
Do not spread disorder on earth.
Al Qur’an Al Majeed 2 Al Baqarah: 60.

‘Whenever it is said to them, “Spread not disorder on the earth”, their reply is, “We only seek to put things aright”.
Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 11
‘Beware! They do spread disorder but they realize it not.’
Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 12

I believe, Allah knows better, what is Islam; than you.
Sorry to differ with you altogether in the matter.’
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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

13. Saamved: Mantr 1

14. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

Hinduism strikes back-1

Hinduism strikes back-1

DSM Satyarthi

Alex 123 writes:
‘LORD RAMA’S MOM (& CO-MOMS) HAVE SEX WITH A DEAD HORSE (ASVAMEDHA SACRIFICE)
The Asvamedha yajna was a celebrated sacrifice in which many ancient Hindu queens & ksatriya women in various provinces had sex with a dead horse, and Lord Rama’s mom (Kausalya) & co-mom’s were no exception. Lord Rama’s mom spends a whole night having sex with a dead horse for the purpose of ‘righteousness & cleansing of sins’:

“The prescribed victims — snakes, birds, the horse, and aquatic animals — were bound at the place of immolation; each was dedicated to a specific divinity as is set forth in the ritual texts. The priests then bound them all to the posts in the manner set forth in the ritual texts. Three hundred beasts in addition to Dasaratha’s jewel of a horse were bound there to the sacrificial posts. Kausalya (Rama’s mom) walked reverently all around the horse and then with the greatest joy cut it with three knives. Her mind unwavering in her desire for righteousness, Kausalya (Rama’s mom) passed one night with the horse. The priests — the hotr, the adhvaryu, and the udgatr — saw to it that the second and the juniormost of the king’s wives, as well as his chief queen, were united with the horse. Then the officiating priest, who was extremely adept and held his senses in check, removed the fat of the horse and cooked it in the manner prescribed in the ritual texts. At the proper time and in accordance with the ritual prescriptions, the lord of men then sniffed the fragrance of the smoking fat, thereby freeing himself from sin. Then, acting in unison, the sixteen brahman officiating priests threw the limbs of the horse into the fire, in accordance with the ritual injunctions. In other sacrifices, the oblation is offered upon branches of the plaksa tree, but in the Horse Sacrifice alone the apportionment of the victim is made on a bed of reeds. The Horse Sacrifice is known as the Three-Day Rite; for both the kalpasutra and the brahmanas refer to the Horse Sacrifice as a rite lasting for three days.” — Ramayana 1:13:24-33.’

This nonsense is being repeated by every hate monger Muslim.
They copy it from somewhere and paste.
It gives them animal satisfaction that their religion is better.
Is it really religion at all?
Whether the actions of a person/persons can be religion for others?
For Muslims:YES.
For Hindus: NO:
Hinduism builds its society, not on beliefs, or sex, as Islam does.
Hinduism builds its society on WISDOM AND FACTS.
As Islam is based on Kalmae Tayyaba: ‘La ilah illillah, Muhammadarrasoolallah; Hinduism is based on Gayatri Mantr:
‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!
tatsaviturvarenyam, Bhargo devasy’ dheemahi,
DHIYO YO NAH PRACHODAYAT.’
‘(Vow:)The Existence. The Consciousness. The Bliss.We meditate on the Creator of all, Worthy to be chosen, the Pure, the Divine, Who guide our WISDOM.’
-Ved: 2 Yajurved: Chapter 36/3, Maitraayan’ee Samhita: 1/6/41, 8/18;34;37,41; 3/4/10; Shatpath Brahman’: 3/2/2/6
In Hinduism, this Mantr is called MoolMantr, Mahamantr, Mantrraj, etc.

The main difference between these two basic themes of these two great religions, is:
Kalmae Tayyaba mentions a person.
Gayatri Mantr does not.
It mentions Eishan Parambrham Paramatma only.
Thus Islam is basically a person oriented religion, while Hinduism is basically immune to any person whosoever.
It is based on PRINCIPLES, not on any person whosoever.

For Muslims, this concept of religion is beyond their wisdom.
Though, I am certain, the persons like Alex 123, don’t even have it.
They are expert in copy pasting only.
To understand what they are copy pasting, is neither required from them, nor they are capable of it.
I found it in their blind allegations on YAJURVED:23/19-21:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I find it here as well.

They say verses 24-33, TEN verses from Ramayan, Baaal Kaand, Sarg/Chapter 13,contain it.
I say: THEY ARE DIRTY LIARS.
There is no such nonsense,in these ten verses.
24th verse is this:
‘tathaa kekaya raajaanam vR’iddham parama dhaarmikam,
shvashuram raaja si.mhasya saputram tvam iha aanaya’
Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|24

24.tathaa likewise; vR’iddham parama dhaarmikam= elderly one, very, virtuous one; shvashuram= father-in-law; raaja simhasya= of king, the lion’s [Dasharatha’s]; kekaya raajaanam= Kekaya’s king; sa putram tvam iha aanaya= along with his sons, you, here, invited.

“Likewise, King of Kekaya, an elderly, very virtuous, and also the father-in-law of our Lion-King Dasharatha, you personally invite him along with his sons.[1-13-24]
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Here, Father of Kaikeyi, is to be invited. Nothing else.
Now, 25th verse:
‘a~Ngeshvaram maheSvaasam romapaadam su satkR’itam |
vayasyam raaja si.mhasya saputram tam iha aanaya || 1-13-25

25. anga iiswaram= Anga kingdom’s, lord; maha iSvaasam= great bow, user of; raaja simhasya= king, the Lion [Dasharatha]; vayasyam= friend of; yashashvinam= illustrious one; romapaadam su satkritam= Romapada, well, honoured, sam aanaya= well, be invited.

“Romapada, the lord of Anga kingdom and the user of great bow, let that illustrious one be invited well honoured, for he is the friend of our lion-king Dasharatha.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|25

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…
Nothing any such nonsense, again.
Angraj Karn’ was the king of which Ang, the then king of the same region, is to invited.
Nothing else.

Let’s see 26th verse:
‘tathaa kosala raajaanam bhaanuma.ntam susatkR’itam,
magadhaadhipatim shuuram sarva shaastra vishaaradam.’

26. tathaa kosala raajaanam= like that, Kosala’s, king; bhaanumantam= Bhanumanta; susatkR^itam= well honoured; magadha adhipatim= Magadha, king; shuuram= brave one; sarva shaastra vishaaradam= in all scriptures, profound.

“Like that King of Kosal namely Bhanumant, and the King of Magadh, a brave one and a profound one in all scriptural knowledge, let them be honoured well and be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|26
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

27th verse now:
‘praaptigyam paramodaaram susatkR’itam puruSarSabham,
raagyaH shaasanamaadaay’ chodayasv’ nR’iparSabhaan.’
praachiinaan sindhu sauviiraan sauraaSThreyaanshch’ paarthivaan.’

27. praaptij~nam= Praaptijna, the king of Magadha; parama udaaram= kind-hearted one; susatkR^itam= well honoured; puruSarSabham= king, the best; raaj~naH shaasanam aadaaya= king’s, orders, taking; chodayasva= motivated by it; nR’iparSabhaan= kings, the best; praaciinaan= eastern regional kings; sindhu sauviiraan sauraaSThreyaam ca paarthivaan= Sindhu, Sauviira, Sauraastra, also, kings of.

“And Praaptijna, the king of Magadha, the kind-hearted and best one among kings, be well honoured and invited.Further, taking the orders of King Dasharatha and motivated by those orders, the kings of Sindhu, Sauviira and Sauraastra kingdoms may also be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|27
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Once again, no such alleged nonsense.
We come to 28th verse now:
‘daakSiNaatyaan narendraam ca samastaan aanayasva ha |
santi snigdhaaH ca ye ca anye raajaanaH pR^ithivii tale,
taan aanaya yathaa kSipram sa anugaan saha baandhavaan.
etaan duutaiH mahaabhaagaiH aanayasva nR’ipa aaj~nyaa.

28, 29. daakSiNaatyaan narendraam ca= southern kingdoms’, kings, also; samastaan aanayasva ha= all of them, be invited, verily; santi snigdhaaH cha ye cha anye= should there be, friends, other, those, also, other; raajaanaH pridhvii tale= kings, on earth’s, surface; taan aanaya yathaa kshipram= them, be invited, as early as; sa anugaan saha baandhavaan= along with, followers, along with, their relatives; etaan mahaabhaagaiH duutaiH= them, highly illustrious ones, through envoys; aanayasva nR^ipa aaj~nyaa= invite them, by king’s, orders.

“All of the kings of southern kingdoms be invited, and should there be any other friends and other friendly kings on the surface of the earth, they too shall be invited as early as possible with all their followers, relatives through highly illustrious envoys, of course with the orders of our king.” Thus Sage Vashishta said to minister Sumantr’!’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|28-29

Reference link to these verses 28/29:
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Now, verse 30:
‘vasiSTha vaakyam tat shrutvaa suma.ntraH tvaritaH tadaa |
vyaadishat puruSaan tatra raagyaamaanayane shubhaan.’

30. tat vashiSTa vaakyam shrutvaa= that, Sage Vashishta’s, words, on hearing; tadaa sumantraH tvaritaH= then, Sumantra, expeditiously; raajnanam tatra aanayane= kings, there [to their kingdom,] for inviting; shubhaan puruSaan vyaadishat= devout men – envoys, men, ordered.

‘On hearing that word of Vashishta, Sumantra expeditiously ordered devout envoys to invite all those kings to their kingdom.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|30
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…
Every one can see again, there isn’t anything as the alleging hate mongers claim.

Verse 31 now:
‘svayameva hi dharmaatmaa prayaato muni shaasanaat,
suma.ntraH tvarito bhuutvaa samaanetum mahaamaiH’

31. dharmaatmaa sumantraH= virtuous one, Sumantra; muni shaashanaat= by sage’s, orders; twaritaH bhuutva= brisk, on becoming; samaanetum mahii kshitaH= to fetch, earth’s, rulers; svayam eva prayayaataH= personally, thus, journeyed.

‘That virtuous Sumantra became brisk upon sage’s words and personally journeyed to fetch all the rulers on the earth.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|31
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Verse 32:
‘te ch’ karmaantikaaH sarve vasiSThaaya ch’ maharSaye,
sarvam nivedayanti sma yagye yadupakalpitam.’

32. te karma antikaaH sarve= those, artisans, all; yaj~ne yat upakalpitam= in ritual, works, that are accomplished; vashiSTyaa, maharSaye= to Vashishta, to the sage; sarvam nivedayanti sma= all details, have, reported.

‘All those artisans engaged in ritual works have reported Vashishta, the details of all those ritual works that are accomplished.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|32
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Now, the LAST 33rd verse:
‘tataH priito dvija shreSThaH taan sarvaan
munir abraviit,
avagyayaa na daatavyam kasya chit liilayaa api vaa.’
avagyayaa kR’itam hanyaat daataaram na atra sa.mshayaH.’

33, 34a. tataH priitaH dwija shreshtaH muniH= then, satisfied, Brahman, eminent, saint, Sage Vashishta; taan sarvaan abraviit= to, all of them, said; avaj~nayaa na daatavyam= with disrespect, not, to be endowed; kasya chit liilaya api vaa= to anyone, deceptively, also, either; avaj~nayaa kR^itam hanyaat daataaram= with disrespect, done [deeds,] will kill, donor; na atra samshayam= not, there, any doubt.

‘Then, that satisfied saint and eminent Brahman Vashishta, spoke this way to all of them, “nothing is to be endowed to anyone either with disrespect or deceptively, the deeds done with disrespect will kill the donor and there is no doubt about it.”
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|33
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

All the ten verses of the reference, Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:13|24-33, are produced here, with original Sanskr’t text.
I reproduce all of them here, translations only now:
‘Likewise, King of Kekaya, an elderly, very virtuous, and also the father-in-law of our Lion-King Dasharath, you personally invite him along with his sons.
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|24
“Romapada, the lord of Anga kingdom and the user of great bow, let that illustrious one be invited well honoured, for he is the friend of our lion-king Dasharath.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|25
“Like that King of Kosal namely Bhanumant, and the King of Magadh, a brave one and a profound one in all scriptural knowledge, let them be honoured well and be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|26
“And Praaptigy’, the king of Magadh, the kind-hearted and best one among kings, be well honoured and invited.Further, taking the orders of King Dasharath and motivated by those orders, the kings of Sindhu, Sauviir and Sauraastr kingdoms may also be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|27
“All of the kings of southern kingdoms be invited, and should there be any other friends and other friendly kings on the surface of the earth, they too shall be invited as early as possible with all their followers, relatives through highly illustrious envoys, of course with the orders of our king.” Thus Sage Vashishth said to minister Sumantr’!’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|28-29
‘On hearing that word of Vashishth, Sumantr expeditiously ordered devout envoys to invite all those kings to their kingdom.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|30
‘That virtuous Sumantr became brisk upon sage’s words and personally journeyed to fetch all the rulers on the earth.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|31
‘All those artisans engaged in ritual works have reported Vashishth, the details of all those ritual works that are accomplished.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|32
‘Then, that satisfied saint and eminent Brahman Vashishth, spoke this way to all of them, “nothing is to be endowed to anyone either with disrespect or deceptively, the deeds done with disrespect will kill the donor and there is no doubt about it.”
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|33

Now,can the hate monger Alex123 tell the entire Internet Community: What is there in these ten verses that he has written:
”LORD RAMA’S MOM (& CO-MOMS) HAVE SEX WITH A DEAD HORSE (ASVAMEDHA SACRIFICE)
The Asvamedha yajna was a celebrated sacrifice in which many ancient Hindu queens & ksatriya women in various provinces had sex with a dead horse, and Lord Rama’s mom (Kausalya) & co-mom’s were no exception. Lord Rama’s mom spends a whole night having sex with a dead horse for the purpose of ‘righteousness & cleansing of sins’:

“The prescribed victims — snakes, birds, the horse, and aquatic animals — were bound at the place of immolation; each was dedicated to a specific divinity as is set forth in the ritual texts. The priests then bound them all to the posts in the manner set forth in the ritual texts. Three hundred beasts in addition to Dasaratha’s jewel of a horse were bound there to the sacrificial posts. Kausalya (Rama’s mom) walked reverently all around the horse and then with the greatest joy cut it with three knives. Her mind unwavering in her desire for righteousness, Kausalya (Rama’s mom) passed one night with the horse. The priests — the hotr, the adhvaryu, and the udgatr — saw to it that the second and the juniormost of the king’s wives, as well as his chief queen, were united with the horse. Then the officiating priest, who was extremely adept and held his senses in check, removed the fat of the horse and cooked it in the manner prescribed in the ritual texts. At the proper time and in accordance with the ritual prescriptions, the lord of men then sniffed the fragrance of the smoking fat, thereby freeing himself from sin. Then, acting in unison, the sixteen brahman officiating priests threw the limbs of the horse into the fire, in accordance with the ritual injunctions. In other sacrifices, the oblation is offered upon branches of the plaksa tree, but in the Horse Sacrifice alone the apportionment of the victim is made on a bed of reeds. The Horse Sacrifice is known as the Three-Day Rite; for both the kalpasutra and the brahmanas refer to the Horse Sacrifice as a rite lasting for three days.” — Ramayana 1:13:24-33.’

Can he prove his point?
Even his ancestors can’t.
SHAME ON THE DIRTY LIAR!

Where is Lord Ram’s Mom/Co Moms here, even mentioned?
Where is any horse, living or dead, mentioned?
Where is any sex mentioned?
Alex123 is a complete hate monger, dirty liar.
Shame!Shame!!

enough42 Brighton

London, UK interjected:

‘You are a disgusting Daalit. Lord Rama’s mother did sleep with dead horse. Our priest confirms it. He has all the Ramayanas.
Stop being a silly man. cover up will not help Hinduism. We need open dialogue.’

The answer to the moron is:

Your priests are fools and so you are.
Answer the evidences produced here, idiot!

Truthful Hindu

New Delhi, India says

For rhe record King Dashratha the father of Ram did not do Ashwamedh Yagya for the birth of Rama but the Putreshthi Yagya. It was a kind of worship like women now going to temples or dargahs or churches to pray to become mothers. Akbar was also supposed to have gone to Sheikh Salim Chishti for getting a son was Salim the son of a pig? Durgesh jabalpur the best policy is to ignore illeterate muslims who only know how to abuse and use filthy language. Durgesh please continue to enjoy the company of Arab women instead of bothering about Alex123 or456.

I replied:

Thank you.
I continue to enjoy Arab women.
Yet, the idiots disturb me sometimes.

enough42Brighton

London, UK  again tried in vain to protect his self respect:

‘you are a disgusting daalit. Give me your number and I will ask our priest to call you.
He is clear about all ramayan and there is proof of mother of Rama our lord slept with horses and there were other mothers too.’

I smiled:

I invite your foolish priest to an open discussion in this Forum.
Let the entire Internet Society must see how foolish you both the idiots are.
Bring him to the forum and let him refute what I proved.
Best of luck, idiots!
‘Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn’:
https://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/ye-yatha…

The hate monger never responded to it.

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3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

13. Saamved: Mantr 1

14. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

‘Asankh granth mukhi Vedpaath’: ‘Even in infinite books Perusal of Ved PARAMOUNT’

Asankh granth mukhi Vedpaath:

Even in infinite books Perusal of Ved PARAMOUNT

DSM Satyarthi

Ved states:
‘Vishveshu hi tvaa savneshu tunjate samaanamekam.’
(Say:)in all the worships You, the One, are worsipped, the Same.’
Ved: 4 Atharv ved: 20|72|1.

It’s nothing new Ved has declared here.

Ved, right from its beginning emphasizes this fact either in this way or that way.

Indram mitram varunamagnimaahuratho divyah s’ suparno garutmaan,
Ekam sadvipra bahudhaa vadantyagnim yamam maatarishvaanamaahuh.’

‘They call Him Indr, Mitr; Agni–Divine is He Suparn, Garutmaan.

The noble persons with wisdom call One Existence in many ways. They call Agni, Yam, Maatarishvan.’
Ved1R’gved/1/164/46.

‘Ekam Sadvipra bahudhaa vadanti’ ‘The noble persons with wisdom call One Existence in many ways.’
It is the same fact repeated here in another words:

‘Vishveshu hi tvaa savneshu tunjate samaanamekam.’
(Say:)in all the worships You, the One, are worshiped, the Same.’
Ved: 4 Atharv ved: 20|72|1.

it is the reason Japuji, 17; tells us:
‘Asankh granth mukhi Vedpaath.’
‘Perusal of Ved is PARAMOUNT in infinite books/scriptures even.’
Why?
Guru Granth Sahab answers it thus:

‘Omkar Ved nirmaye’
‘Omkar has created Ved.’
-Guru Granth Sahab: Raag Ramkali| mahla 1| Sabad 1.

Guru Granth Sahab goes further to tell us:
Ved bakhiyaan karat saadhujan, bhaagheen samjhat naheen’
‘The noble persons explain Ved. The unlucky persons don’t understand.’
-Guru Granth Sahab: Todi| Mahla 5| Sabad 26.

Somewhere else, Guru Granth Sahab again declares:
‘Smr’ti Saasatr Ved Puraan,
Paarbrahm ka karahin bakhiyaan’
‘Smr’ti, Shaastr, Ved and Puraan describe Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma.’
Guru Granth Sahab: Gaund| Mahla 5| Sabad 17.

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1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

7. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

10. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

13. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

15. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

16. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

17. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

19. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

20. Saamved: Mantr 1

21. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

23. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

24.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Aa hi rohemamamr’tam sukham rathm: ascend IMMORTAL EASY-RUNNING CHARIOT

Aa hi rohemamamr’tam sukham

rathm:

Ascend IMMORTAL

EASY-RUNNING CHARIOT

DSM Satyarthi

Atharv Ved orders:
Udyaanam te, purush! naavyaanam,
jeevaatum te daxtaatim kr’n’omi.
Aa hi rohemamamr’tam sukham rathmath
jirvirvidathamaa vadaasi.’

‘Up-going thine, O man! NOT DOWN-GOING. length of life, ability, I make for thee. For do thou ascend this IMMORTAL EASY-RUNNING CHARIOT properly. Then shalt thou in ADVANCED AGE, speak to the council.’

–Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 8/1//6

‘IMMORTAL EASY-RUNNING CHARIOT’
‘AMR’TAM SUKHAM RATHAM’
‘Aa hi roh”Only ascend properly’
All these words are important if we want to learn more about this immortal chariot.
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3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

6. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

13. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

15. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

16. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

17. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

18. Saamved: Mantr 1

19. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

20. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

21. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25


‘Vidva ch’ vedehi samechch dhammam’ ‘ Intellectuals ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE FROM VED’

Vidva ch’ vedehi samechch dhammam

Intellectuals ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE FROM VED

DSM Satyarthi

The British Government of India was facing more problems from Hindus than those from the Muslims.
That’s why it tried to divide Hindus more and more,while the same British Government of India, tried to unite Muslims more and more.
It, on its own accord, called Sir Saiyad Ahmad Khan, and proposed him to run a movement for a separate Muslim University.
Why did it go to all the trouble?

Because it wanted to do something good for the Muslims?
Certainly not.
The British Government was never so good.
Neither for Muslims, nor for Hindus.
Both the Muslims and Hindus were dirty black Indian dogs for it.

It did never even try to hide this inhuman attitude to the Muslims and Hindus both.
They were the WHITE DEMONS who were ruling India then.
They did not value humanity.
They valued color more, in actual practice.
Why then this concern to the Muslims?

Because they had tasted the bitter taste of Hindu Muslim Unity in 1857:

So, they started to unite Muslims and divide Hindus in as many divisions as they could.
Obsolete Manusmr’ti was also found out for the same purpose, published, and was given undue importance.

The classical division of Hindus, Baudddhs, Jains and Sikhs was also brought into existence to serve their same vile, dirty, and quite inhuman political interests.

They claimed that Sikhs are not Hindus.
What a ridiculous idea it was.
The Sikhs were Hindus who sacrificed themselves to protect Hindus and Hinduism.
It was the very purpose of Sikhism.
And, the dirty liars, the dirty cheaters; claimed:’The Hindus who sacrifice themselves to protect Hindus and Hinduism ARE NOT HINDUS.’
Great!
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/T10…

Similarly,
Lord Buddh himself was a Hindu.
Go through ‘Suttnipaat’.
Its verse 292 tells us:
‘Samam samaadaay’ vataani jantu,
uchchaavacham gachchhati sanysatto.
Vidvaa ch’ vedehi samechch dhammam,
n’ uchchaavacham gachchhati bhooripanyo.’

‘Non Dvij persons are always unbalanced as they don’t control their organs.
But the intellectuals WHO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE FROM VED are never unbalanced & are full of
multi knowledge.’

You can verify it.
The reference is already given by me.

It’s interesting that Muslims ruled India more, than the British.
‘Although the British East India Company had earlier administered the factory areas established for trading purposes, its victory in the Battle of Plassey in 1757 marked the beginning of its rule in India. The victory was consolidated in 1764 at the Battle of Buxar (in Bihar), when the defeated Mughal emperor, Shah Alam II, granted control of Bengal, Bihar, and Orissa to the Company. The Company soon expanded its territories around its bases in Bombay and Madras: the Anglo-Mysore Wars (1766–1799) and the Anglo-Maratha Wars (1772–1818) gave it the control of most of India south of the Narmada River.’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion…

The East India company rule was started from its victory in the Battle of Plassey in 1757.
After exactly 100 years, it faced the first INDEPENDENCE WAR OF INDIA, in 1857.
After more 90 years only, in 1947, India won its Independence.
Only 190 years of the British rule, thus, on India.

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

13. ‘Maa phaleshu kadaachan’: ‘Never in results.’

14. ‘S’ janaas! indrah’: Who is indr?’: Ved: 1 R’gved: 2|12|2: No scientific error

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1.  Commentary on Ved

2. More On Hinduism

3. On Islam

4. On History

5. Science Fiction

6.  Creative Adult Sex in English from Durgesh

7. Durgesh in Hindi/Urdu

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

7. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

10. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

13. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

15. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

16. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

17. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

19. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

20. Saamved: Mantr 1

21. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

23. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

24.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

‘Tanvam pushem’ ‘Let’s safeguard the body’: Ved

Tanvam pushem

Let’s safeguard the body: Ved

DSM Satyarthi

It is generally understood, and unfortunately, still being preached very much, that our body is not important.

Our soul is important.
Of course, it’s right, but not to the extent it’s being preached erroneously.
It is important as far as our further evolution is concerned.
But it is dangerous, for our present life, if we ignore our physical body at all, as some of us fatally do, in their utter ignorance of the fact, erroneously.
Mamaagne varcho vihavesvastu vayam tvendhaanaastanvam pushem,Mahyam namantaam pradishaschatasrastvayaadhyaxe n’ pr’tanaa jayem.’‘My splendor be, Agni, in special/ various calls. We bright you all. Let’s safeguard the body. Four directions bow to me. Let’s win the armies with you President.’

Ved: 4Atharv Ved|5|3|1

Tanvam pushemLet’s safeguard the body‘.

Why does Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma propose it, if it’s not at all important?
Why ‘Let’s safeguard the body‘, if it isn’t important at all?
Of course, our soul is important.
Our spirit is important.
But, we should never forget that we see each other’s bodies, not souls.
We behave with each other’s bodies, not with souls.
We recognize each other’s bodies as particular persons, not their souls.
The soul has been described by Lord Kr’shn‘:
Anaaditvaannirgun’atvaatparam aatmaayamavyayah.
Shareerastho’pi, Kauntey’! n’ karoti n’ lipyte.’
Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 13/32

‘This expenseless is the God due to its beginninglessness and its bodilessness.
Even in the body, O son of Kunti! neither does work nor does cleave.’
Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 13/32

This entire chapter 13 of Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta, deals with the subject under discussion.

Idam shareeram, Kauntey’! xetramityabhidheeyate.
Etadyo vetti tam praahuh xtragy’ iti tadvidah.’

‘This material body, O son of Kunti! is called the field (of activity). The person who knows it is called appropriately, the knower of the field, by the knowers of it.
Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 13/2
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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

13. ‘Maa phaleshu kadaachan’: ‘Never in results.’

14. ‘S’ janaas! indrah’: Who is indr?’: Ved: 1 R’gved: 2|12|2: No scientific error

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1. Commentary on Ved
2. More On Hinduism
3. On Islam
4. On History
5. Science Fiction
6. Creative Adult Sex in English from Durgesh
7. Durgesh in Hindi/Urdu

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 12| Mantr 2

18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

37. Saamved: Mantr 1

38. Sāmved: Mantr 115

39. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

40. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

41. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

42. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

43.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

44. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

45. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

46. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

49. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

51.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

‘Sukr’te dadhaat’: ‘Amil Saalihan’

Sukr’te dadhaat:

Amil Saalihan

DSM Satyarthi

Ved orders his followers:
‘Imaam naareem sukr’te dadhaat’
‘Bear this woman for the man who does righteous good deeds.’

Al Qur’an Al Majeed declares:
‘Innallazeen ‘Aamanoo Wa Allaazeen Haadoo Wa An-Nasaaraa Wa As-Saabi’een Man ‘Aaman Billaahi Wa Al-Yawmi Al-’Aakhiri Wa `Amil Saalihan Falahum ‘Ajruhum `Ind Rabbihim Wa Laa Khawfun `Alaihim Wa Laa Hum Yahzanoon’

‘Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .’

–Al Qur’an Al Karim: Al-Baqarah 2:62

Both the basic books of two great religions, Hinduism and Islam; base their systems of life, thus, on righteous good deeds:

Sukr’te dadhaat
Amil Saalihan

I wonder, how the persons who claim to be Hindus and Muslims, can  resort to the deeds which are not righteous, neither good.

Have they gone crazy?

Or, don’t they care what their own basic religious books demand from them?

Will they care to answer the question?

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1. More On Hinduism

2. On Islam

3. On History

4. Commentary on Ved

5. Science Fiction

6.  Creative Adult Sex in English from Durgesh

7. Durgesh in Hindi/Urdu

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

13. ‘Maa phaleshu kadaachan’: ‘Never in results.’

14. ‘S’ janaas! indrah’: Who is indr?’: Ved: 1 R’gved: 2|12|2: No scientific error

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 11| Mantr 7

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

12. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

16.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

17. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

18. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

19. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

20. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

23. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

28. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

29. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

30. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

31. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

39. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

40. Saamved: Mantr 1

41. Sāmved: Mantr 115

42. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

43. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

44. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

46.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

51. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

52.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

54.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

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More on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

2. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

3. Aheism can’t win Hinduism/Ved

4. Casteism is NOT an intgral part of Hinduism:’Samaanee prapaa sah vonnabhaagah’ ”Same drinking same share of food.’

5. Hinduism builds its society on SUKR’TS/Noble doers:’Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

6. Hinduism is PRINCIPLES BASED , not PERSON BASED

7. One should not wish to die: Ved hates death

8. RELIGIOUS DEMOCRACY in Hinduism: Ekam sadvipra bahudhaa vadanti

9. Sanyas is not the goal of Hinduism

10. Sati tradition was an Aasur Tradition, not Vedic at all