Hinduism strikes back-1

Hinduism strikes back-1

DSM Satyarthi

Alex 123 writes:
‘LORD RAMA’S MOM (& CO-MOMS) HAVE SEX WITH A DEAD HORSE (ASVAMEDHA SACRIFICE)
The Asvamedha yajna was a celebrated sacrifice in which many ancient Hindu queens & ksatriya women in various provinces had sex with a dead horse, and Lord Rama’s mom (Kausalya) & co-mom’s were no exception. Lord Rama’s mom spends a whole night having sex with a dead horse for the purpose of ‘righteousness & cleansing of sins’:

“The prescribed victims — snakes, birds, the horse, and aquatic animals — were bound at the place of immolation; each was dedicated to a specific divinity as is set forth in the ritual texts. The priests then bound them all to the posts in the manner set forth in the ritual texts. Three hundred beasts in addition to Dasaratha’s jewel of a horse were bound there to the sacrificial posts. Kausalya (Rama’s mom) walked reverently all around the horse and then with the greatest joy cut it with three knives. Her mind unwavering in her desire for righteousness, Kausalya (Rama’s mom) passed one night with the horse. The priests — the hotr, the adhvaryu, and the udgatr — saw to it that the second and the juniormost of the king’s wives, as well as his chief queen, were united with the horse. Then the officiating priest, who was extremely adept and held his senses in check, removed the fat of the horse and cooked it in the manner prescribed in the ritual texts. At the proper time and in accordance with the ritual prescriptions, the lord of men then sniffed the fragrance of the smoking fat, thereby freeing himself from sin. Then, acting in unison, the sixteen brahman officiating priests threw the limbs of the horse into the fire, in accordance with the ritual injunctions. In other sacrifices, the oblation is offered upon branches of the plaksa tree, but in the Horse Sacrifice alone the apportionment of the victim is made on a bed of reeds. The Horse Sacrifice is known as the Three-Day Rite; for both the kalpasutra and the brahmanas refer to the Horse Sacrifice as a rite lasting for three days.” — Ramayana 1:13:24-33.’

This nonsense is being repeated by every hate monger Muslim.
They copy it from somewhere and paste.
It gives them animal satisfaction that their religion is better.
Is it really religion at all?
Whether the actions of a person/persons can be religion for others?
For Muslims:YES.
For Hindus: NO:
Hinduism builds its society, not on beliefs, or sex, as Islam does.
Hinduism builds its society on WISDOM AND FACTS.
As Islam is based on Kalmae Tayyaba: ‘La ilah illillah, Muhammadarrasoolallah; Hinduism is based on Gayatri Mantr:
‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!
tatsaviturvarenyam, Bhargo devasy’ dheemahi,
DHIYO YO NAH PRACHODAYAT.’
‘(Vow:)The Existence. The Consciousness. The Bliss.We meditate on the Creator of all, Worthy to be chosen, the Pure, the Divine, Who guide our WISDOM.’
-Ved: 2 Yajurved: Chapter 36/3, Maitraayan’ee Samhita: 1/6/41, 8/18;34;37,41; 3/4/10; Shatpath Brahman’: 3/2/2/6
In Hinduism, this Mantr is called MoolMantr, Mahamantr, Mantrraj, etc.

The main difference between these two basic themes of these two great religions, is:
Kalmae Tayyaba mentions a person.
Gayatri Mantr does not.
It mentions Eishan Parambrham Paramatma only.
Thus Islam is basically a person oriented religion, while Hinduism is basically immune to any person whosoever.
It is based on PRINCIPLES, not on any person whosoever.

For Muslims, this concept of religion is beyond their wisdom.
Though, I am certain, the persons like Alex 123, don’t even have it.
They are expert in copy pasting only.
To understand what they are copy pasting, is neither required from them, nor they are capable of it.
I found it in their blind allegations on YAJURVED:23/19-21:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I find it here as well.

They say verses 24-33, TEN verses from Ramayan, Baaal Kaand, Sarg/Chapter 13,contain it.
I say: THEY ARE DIRTY LIARS.
There is no such nonsense,in these ten verses.
24th verse is this:
‘tathaa kekaya raajaanam vR’iddham parama dhaarmikam,
shvashuram raaja si.mhasya saputram tvam iha aanaya’
Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|24

24.tathaa likewise; vR’iddham parama dhaarmikam= elderly one, very, virtuous one; shvashuram= father-in-law; raaja simhasya= of king, the lion’s [Dasharatha’s]; kekaya raajaanam= Kekaya’s king; sa putram tvam iha aanaya= along with his sons, you, here, invited.

“Likewise, King of Kekaya, an elderly, very virtuous, and also the father-in-law of our Lion-King Dasharatha, you personally invite him along with his sons.[1-13-24]
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Here, Father of Kaikeyi, is to be invited. Nothing else.
Now, 25th verse:
‘a~Ngeshvaram maheSvaasam romapaadam su satkR’itam |
vayasyam raaja si.mhasya saputram tam iha aanaya || 1-13-25

25. anga iiswaram= Anga kingdom’s, lord; maha iSvaasam= great bow, user of; raaja simhasya= king, the Lion [Dasharatha]; vayasyam= friend of; yashashvinam= illustrious one; romapaadam su satkritam= Romapada, well, honoured, sam aanaya= well, be invited.

“Romapada, the lord of Anga kingdom and the user of great bow, let that illustrious one be invited well honoured, for he is the friend of our lion-king Dasharatha.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|25

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…
Nothing any such nonsense, again.
Angraj Karn’ was the king of which Ang, the then king of the same region, is to invited.
Nothing else.

Let’s see 26th verse:
‘tathaa kosala raajaanam bhaanuma.ntam susatkR’itam,
magadhaadhipatim shuuram sarva shaastra vishaaradam.’

26. tathaa kosala raajaanam= like that, Kosala’s, king; bhaanumantam= Bhanumanta; susatkR^itam= well honoured; magadha adhipatim= Magadha, king; shuuram= brave one; sarva shaastra vishaaradam= in all scriptures, profound.

“Like that King of Kosal namely Bhanumant, and the King of Magadh, a brave one and a profound one in all scriptural knowledge, let them be honoured well and be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|26
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

27th verse now:
‘praaptigyam paramodaaram susatkR’itam puruSarSabham,
raagyaH shaasanamaadaay’ chodayasv’ nR’iparSabhaan.’
praachiinaan sindhu sauviiraan sauraaSThreyaanshch’ paarthivaan.’

27. praaptij~nam= Praaptijna, the king of Magadha; parama udaaram= kind-hearted one; susatkR^itam= well honoured; puruSarSabham= king, the best; raaj~naH shaasanam aadaaya= king’s, orders, taking; chodayasva= motivated by it; nR’iparSabhaan= kings, the best; praaciinaan= eastern regional kings; sindhu sauviiraan sauraaSThreyaam ca paarthivaan= Sindhu, Sauviira, Sauraastra, also, kings of.

“And Praaptijna, the king of Magadha, the kind-hearted and best one among kings, be well honoured and invited.Further, taking the orders of King Dasharatha and motivated by those orders, the kings of Sindhu, Sauviira and Sauraastra kingdoms may also be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|27
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Once again, no such alleged nonsense.
We come to 28th verse now:
‘daakSiNaatyaan narendraam ca samastaan aanayasva ha |
santi snigdhaaH ca ye ca anye raajaanaH pR^ithivii tale,
taan aanaya yathaa kSipram sa anugaan saha baandhavaan.
etaan duutaiH mahaabhaagaiH aanayasva nR’ipa aaj~nyaa.

28, 29. daakSiNaatyaan narendraam ca= southern kingdoms’, kings, also; samastaan aanayasva ha= all of them, be invited, verily; santi snigdhaaH cha ye cha anye= should there be, friends, other, those, also, other; raajaanaH pridhvii tale= kings, on earth’s, surface; taan aanaya yathaa kshipram= them, be invited, as early as; sa anugaan saha baandhavaan= along with, followers, along with, their relatives; etaan mahaabhaagaiH duutaiH= them, highly illustrious ones, through envoys; aanayasva nR^ipa aaj~nyaa= invite them, by king’s, orders.

“All of the kings of southern kingdoms be invited, and should there be any other friends and other friendly kings on the surface of the earth, they too shall be invited as early as possible with all their followers, relatives through highly illustrious envoys, of course with the orders of our king.” Thus Sage Vashishta said to minister Sumantr’!’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|28-29

Reference link to these verses 28/29:
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Now, verse 30:
‘vasiSTha vaakyam tat shrutvaa suma.ntraH tvaritaH tadaa |
vyaadishat puruSaan tatra raagyaamaanayane shubhaan.’

30. tat vashiSTa vaakyam shrutvaa= that, Sage Vashishta’s, words, on hearing; tadaa sumantraH tvaritaH= then, Sumantra, expeditiously; raajnanam tatra aanayane= kings, there [to their kingdom,] for inviting; shubhaan puruSaan vyaadishat= devout men – envoys, men, ordered.

‘On hearing that word of Vashishta, Sumantra expeditiously ordered devout envoys to invite all those kings to their kingdom.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|30
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…
Every one can see again, there isn’t anything as the alleging hate mongers claim.

Verse 31 now:
‘svayameva hi dharmaatmaa prayaato muni shaasanaat,
suma.ntraH tvarito bhuutvaa samaanetum mahaamaiH’

31. dharmaatmaa sumantraH= virtuous one, Sumantra; muni shaashanaat= by sage’s, orders; twaritaH bhuutva= brisk, on becoming; samaanetum mahii kshitaH= to fetch, earth’s, rulers; svayam eva prayayaataH= personally, thus, journeyed.

‘That virtuous Sumantra became brisk upon sage’s words and personally journeyed to fetch all the rulers on the earth.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|31
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Verse 32:
‘te ch’ karmaantikaaH sarve vasiSThaaya ch’ maharSaye,
sarvam nivedayanti sma yagye yadupakalpitam.’

32. te karma antikaaH sarve= those, artisans, all; yaj~ne yat upakalpitam= in ritual, works, that are accomplished; vashiSTyaa, maharSaye= to Vashishta, to the sage; sarvam nivedayanti sma= all details, have, reported.

‘All those artisans engaged in ritual works have reported Vashishta, the details of all those ritual works that are accomplished.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|32
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

Now, the LAST 33rd verse:
‘tataH priito dvija shreSThaH taan sarvaan
munir abraviit,
avagyayaa na daatavyam kasya chit liilayaa api vaa.’
avagyayaa kR’itam hanyaat daataaram na atra sa.mshayaH.’

33, 34a. tataH priitaH dwija shreshtaH muniH= then, satisfied, Brahman, eminent, saint, Sage Vashishta; taan sarvaan abraviit= to, all of them, said; avaj~nayaa na daatavyam= with disrespect, not, to be endowed; kasya chit liilaya api vaa= to anyone, deceptively, also, either; avaj~nayaa kR^itam hanyaat daataaram= with disrespect, done [deeds,] will kill, donor; na atra samshayam= not, there, any doubt.

‘Then, that satisfied saint and eminent Brahman Vashishta, spoke this way to all of them, “nothing is to be endowed to anyone either with disrespect or deceptively, the deeds done with disrespect will kill the donor and there is no doubt about it.”
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|33
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/bala/sarga13/ba…

All the ten verses of the reference, Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:13|24-33, are produced here, with original Sanskr’t text.
I reproduce all of them here, translations only now:
‘Likewise, King of Kekaya, an elderly, very virtuous, and also the father-in-law of our Lion-King Dasharath, you personally invite him along with his sons.
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|24
“Romapada, the lord of Anga kingdom and the user of great bow, let that illustrious one be invited well honoured, for he is the friend of our lion-king Dasharath.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|25
“Like that King of Kosal namely Bhanumant, and the King of Magadh, a brave one and a profound one in all scriptural knowledge, let them be honoured well and be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|26
“And Praaptigy’, the king of Magadh, the kind-hearted and best one among kings, be well honoured and invited.Further, taking the orders of King Dasharath and motivated by those orders, the kings of Sindhu, Sauviir and Sauraastr kingdoms may also be invited.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|27
“All of the kings of southern kingdoms be invited, and should there be any other friends and other friendly kings on the surface of the earth, they too shall be invited as early as possible with all their followers, relatives through highly illustrious envoys, of course with the orders of our king.” Thus Sage Vashishth said to minister Sumantr’!’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|28-29
‘On hearing that word of Vashishth, Sumantr expeditiously ordered devout envoys to invite all those kings to their kingdom.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|30
‘That virtuous Sumantr became brisk upon sage’s words and personally journeyed to fetch all the rulers on the earth.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|31
‘All those artisans engaged in ritual works have reported Vashishth, the details of all those ritual works that are accomplished.’
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|32
‘Then, that satisfied saint and eminent Brahman Vashishth, spoke this way to all of them, “nothing is to be endowed to anyone either with disrespect or deceptively, the deeds done with disrespect will kill the donor and there is no doubt about it.”
-Aarsh Ramayan: 1 Baal Kaand:| Sarg/Chapter13|33

Now,can the hate monger Alex123 tell the entire Internet Community: What is there in these ten verses that he has written:
”LORD RAMA’S MOM (& CO-MOMS) HAVE SEX WITH A DEAD HORSE (ASVAMEDHA SACRIFICE)
The Asvamedha yajna was a celebrated sacrifice in which many ancient Hindu queens & ksatriya women in various provinces had sex with a dead horse, and Lord Rama’s mom (Kausalya) & co-mom’s were no exception. Lord Rama’s mom spends a whole night having sex with a dead horse for the purpose of ‘righteousness & cleansing of sins’:

“The prescribed victims — snakes, birds, the horse, and aquatic animals — were bound at the place of immolation; each was dedicated to a specific divinity as is set forth in the ritual texts. The priests then bound them all to the posts in the manner set forth in the ritual texts. Three hundred beasts in addition to Dasaratha’s jewel of a horse were bound there to the sacrificial posts. Kausalya (Rama’s mom) walked reverently all around the horse and then with the greatest joy cut it with three knives. Her mind unwavering in her desire for righteousness, Kausalya (Rama’s mom) passed one night with the horse. The priests — the hotr, the adhvaryu, and the udgatr — saw to it that the second and the juniormost of the king’s wives, as well as his chief queen, were united with the horse. Then the officiating priest, who was extremely adept and held his senses in check, removed the fat of the horse and cooked it in the manner prescribed in the ritual texts. At the proper time and in accordance with the ritual prescriptions, the lord of men then sniffed the fragrance of the smoking fat, thereby freeing himself from sin. Then, acting in unison, the sixteen brahman officiating priests threw the limbs of the horse into the fire, in accordance with the ritual injunctions. In other sacrifices, the oblation is offered upon branches of the plaksa tree, but in the Horse Sacrifice alone the apportionment of the victim is made on a bed of reeds. The Horse Sacrifice is known as the Three-Day Rite; for both the kalpasutra and the brahmanas refer to the Horse Sacrifice as a rite lasting for three days.” — Ramayana 1:13:24-33.’

Can he prove his point?
Even his ancestors can’t.
SHAME ON THE DIRTY LIAR!

Where is Lord Ram’s Mom/Co Moms here, even mentioned?
Where is any horse, living or dead, mentioned?
Where is any sex mentioned?
Alex123 is a complete hate monger, dirty liar.
Shame!Shame!!

enough42 Brighton

London, UK interjected:

‘You are a disgusting Daalit. Lord Rama’s mother did sleep with dead horse. Our priest confirms it. He has all the Ramayanas.
Stop being a silly man. cover up will not help Hinduism. We need open dialogue.’

The answer to the moron is:

Your priests are fools and so you are.
Answer the evidences produced here, idiot!

Truthful Hindu

New Delhi, India says

For rhe record King Dashratha the father of Ram did not do Ashwamedh Yagya for the birth of Rama but the Putreshthi Yagya. It was a kind of worship like women now going to temples or dargahs or churches to pray to become mothers. Akbar was also supposed to have gone to Sheikh Salim Chishti for getting a son was Salim the son of a pig? Durgesh jabalpur the best policy is to ignore illeterate muslims who only know how to abuse and use filthy language. Durgesh please continue to enjoy the company of Arab women instead of bothering about Alex123 or456.

I replied:

Thank you.
I continue to enjoy Arab women.
Yet, the idiots disturb me sometimes.

enough42Brighton

London, UK  again tried in vain to protect his self respect:

‘you are a disgusting daalit. Give me your number and I will ask our priest to call you.
He is clear about all ramayan and there is proof of mother of Rama our lord slept with horses and there were other mothers too.’

I smiled:

I invite your foolish priest to an open discussion in this Forum.
Let the entire Internet Society must see how foolish you both the idiots are.
Bring him to the forum and let him refute what I proved.
Best of luck, idiots!
‘Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn’:
https://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/ye-yatha…

The hate monger never responded to it.

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

13. Saamved: Mantr 1

14. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

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