Sati tradition was an Aasur Tradition,
NOT Vedic at all
DSM Satyarthi
Ved does not preach a wife to burn herself with the dead body of her husband.
There isn’t any such verse.
A person, Suraj, has claimed that:
‘just tell me in ur religion wife has to be burnt alive if his husband dies (this verse has been removed from vedas by swami viveknanda)still u are claming women has equal right in hinduism.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I replied it:
Which verse?
Quote it with proper reference from Pre Vivekanand literature.
No such verse existed ever.
It’s only an anti-Hindu propagnda:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Hindu
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I further confirmed it:
‘True.
I’ve already asked him.
He can’t produce any, because there never was any such verse .
If it was there, why Kaushalya, Kaikeyi, and Sumitra, any of these three widows of Dashrath, did not follow it?
It was an Aasur tradition, not Vedic, at all.
Sulochna followed it, and Ravan did not stop her.
Hindus adopted it afterwards from Asurs, in their profound stupidity.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
It’s my stand in the matter.
If someone disagrees with me, he/she is most welcome to post his/her arguments with competent references to be checked.
Ved, quite contrary to the so called Sati Tradition, instructs the widows:
‘Udeershv naaryabhi jeevlokam,
gataasumetamup shesh ehi.
Hastgraabhasy’ didhishostavedam
patyurjanitvamabhi sam babhooth.’
‘Stand up, woman! come to the wanted world of living beings.
It is the remnant of the gone, your hand-holder husband’s, maker’s you pregnant, birth.
Behave properly as you like.’
-Ved: 1R’gved: 10|18|8
The words used by Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma are quite clear.
‘Stand up, woman!’
‘Udeershv, naari!’
Don’t sit there helpless.
Collect yourself.
‘Come to the wanted world of living beings.’
‘ABHI JEEVLOKAM EHI.’
‘Ehi=Aa+ihi.”Come.’
‘wanted world of living beings’
‘ABHI JEEVLOKAM’.
‘It is only the remnant of the gone’
‘Gataasumetamup shesh’
It’s not your husband any more.
It’s only his remnant ‘Up Shesh’.
He has gone,’Gataasum’.
‘your hand-holder husband’s’
‘Hastgraabhasy’Patyuh’
‘maker’s you pregnant’
‘didhishostav’
‘Birth”Janitvam’,
NOT DEATH ACTUALLY.
He hasn’t died actually.
He has taken REBIRTH.
This body was not suitable for him. any more.
He has gained a new body.
Lord Kr’shn‘ has explained this phenomena as:
‘Vaasaansi jeern’aani yathaa vihaay’,
navaani gr’hn’aati naro’paraan’i,
tathaa shareeraan’i vihaay’
jeern’aanyanyaani samyaati navaani dehee.
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-22…
‘As a man gets other new apparels giving up old worn out garments,similarly giving up the old worn out bodies, the embodied gets other new ones.’
–Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 2|22
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-22…
The woman is free to do whatever proper for her she likes:
‘Behave properly as you like.’
‘ABHI SAM BABHOOTH’.
-Ved: 1R’gved: 10|18|8
Ved does not take this matter lightly.
It repeats it again in its fourth and concluding volume, Atharv Ved:
‘Udeershv naaryabhi jeevlokam,
gataasumetamup shesh ehi.
Hastgraabhasy’ didhishostavedam
patyurjanitvamabhi sam babhooth.’
‘Stand up, woman! come to the wanted world of living beings.
It is the remnant of the gone, your hand-holder husband’s, maker’s you pregnant, birth.
Behave properly as you like.’
-Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 18|3|2
Exactly the same words, those in R’g Ved 10|18|8
Horace Hayman Wilson comments on this Mantr:
‘This verse is to be spoken by the husband’s brother etc., to the wife of the dead man, and he is to make her leave her husband’s body.
See the Ashvalaayan Gr’hy’ Sootr: 4|2.’
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe29/sbe2914…
He further comments:
‘THIS VERSE IS INTERESTING AS SHOWING THAT IN LATEST PART OF THE VAIDIK AGE, THERE WAS NO TRACE OF SUTTEE.’
So, I think, even Horace Hayman Wilson agrees with me, in the matter.
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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:
1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2
3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3
4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3
5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5
6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8
4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1
5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2
6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3
7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4
8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5
9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6
10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7
11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8
12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9
13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6
14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20
15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46
16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
17 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2
19. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
20. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
21. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
22. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
23. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
24. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5
26. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42
28. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1
29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2
30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3
31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4
32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1
33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4
34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3
35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8
36. Saamved: Mantr 1
38. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1
39. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10
40. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik
41. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1
42. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3
43. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4
44. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6
45. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6
46. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7
47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8
48. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6
49. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22
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