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V Ved: 2 Yajurved: Poorv Vinshati: Adhyāý 1: Mantr 1.

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O Om ishe tvorjje tvaa vaayav sth’ devo vah savitaa praarpayatu shreshthtamaay’ karman’aapyaayadhvamaghnyaa’indraay’ bhaagam prajaavateeranameevaa’ayaxmaa maa v’ sten eishat maaghshagvagvonso dhruvaa’asmin gopatau syaat bahveeryajmaanasy’ pashoonpaahi.

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1. 1Om! for food/the will power, thee. For energy, thee. Breezes are ye. Divine Creator impel, you all, to noblest work. Complete properly, Inviolable female! share for the controller of organs. Rich in offspring/subject. Free from sickness. Free from diminishing. No thief rule on you, no evil-praiser. Be constant in this master of ‘go’, numerous females! Guard the cattle of the worshiper.

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1. R’shi: Paraméshŧhī Prajāpati.

The Param Purush/the absolute man is Paraméshŧhī. He has been nominated by Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā Himself, to play the same role in the democratic system of all His infinite creations, as the President plays in a Parliamentary Democratic System.

But there are some differences too:

A. He is nominated, not chosen, as it is required in a Parliamentary Democratic System.

B. His authority can be challenged in the Supreme Court of Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā only, nowhere else.

C. The persons who are atheists have nothing to complain, as they don’t believe in the Existence of Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā Himself. They have not to believe in the existence of Param Purush too, similarly.

Param Purush is also capable to execute his authority himself, almost like Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā.

Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā is Almighty.

Param Purush is also almost almighty, having only one supreme authority above him, Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā.

D. One can differ with Param Purush, but one can’t challenge his authority anywhere else except in the court of Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā.

E. Param Purush is immortal, while the other Presidents are not.

F. A difference of opinion with Param Purush is not necessarily a disobedience to Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā, until it is against Ved itself.

Dévtā/Divine Subject: Savitā, the Creator.

Chhand/Meter: Till ‘Bhāgam’: Svarāŧ Br’hatī. Svar: Madhyam.

After ‘Bhāgam’: Chhand/Meter: Brāhmī Ushñik. Svar: R’shabh.

Yajurved is the second volume of Ved.

Yajurved is divided into forty chapters. Each chapter is called ‘Adhyāý’.

These forty chapters are grouped in two groups of twenty chapters each.

The first group is called ‘Poorv Vinshati’, and the second one is called ‘Uttar Vinshati’.

‘Vinshati’, in Sanskr’t, means ‘twenty’, nothing else.

It is clear from this Mantr, thus, that Yajurved does not deal with definitions, as R’g Ved did.
It deals with family and politics.
Family:
‘Complete properly, Inviolable female! Share for the controller of organs. Rich in offspring/subject. Free from sickness. Free from diminishing.’
aapyaayadhvamaghnyaa’indraay’ bhaagam prajaavateeranameevaa’ayaxmaa. ‘

Politics:
‘No thief rule on you, no evil-praiser.’
”maa v’ sten eishat maaghshagvaongso.’

Throughout Yajurved, we find these two subjects, mainly, dealt with.

Ralph T. H. Griffith M.A., C.I.E. has introduced Yajurved thus:

THE YAJURVEDA—derived from the roots yaj, to sacrifice or, worship, and vid, to know,—is the Knowledge of Sacrifice or Sacrificial Texts and Formulas as distinguished from the Rigveda or Knowledge of Recited Praise, the Sâmaveda or Knowledge of Chanted Hymns, and the Atharva or Brahmaveda which is the Knowledge of Prayer, Charm, and Spells. Though ranking second in the Indian enumeration of the Vedas and containing much that is of very ancient origin, its compilation in its present form, exhibiting as it does the almost complete development of castes and mixt castes and considerable advance in arts and sciences, trades, handicrafts and occupations, is evidently of later date than that even of the Atharva.’

I’m sorry to disagree, profoundly, with the learned scholar of Ved, Ralph T. H. Griffith M.A., C.I.E., here.

First of all, Ved should not be valued, each volume separately, altogether.

It can be valued thus, to evaluate each volume of Ved, separately.

But, even then, the evaluator must never forget that these volumes are, after all, the volumes of a Complete Book.

The entire Book has a meaning of its own.

The volumes are necessary to provide easy perusal of the book.

They are not separate books.

They are volumes of a Complete Book, conveying its own meaning.

Unfortunately, this original concept is missing altogether in these prefaces, or introductions to separate volumes of Ved, making them erroneous thus.

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More commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

17 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

19. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

20. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

26. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

28. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

35. Saamved: Mantr 1

36. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

37. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

38. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

39. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

40.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

41. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

42. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

43. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

44. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

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More on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

2. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

3. Aheism can’t win Hinduism/Ved

4. Casteism is NOT an intgral part of Hinduism:’Samaanee prapaa sah vonnabhaagah’ ”Same drinking same share of food.’

5. Hinduism builds its society on SUKR’TS/Noble doers:’Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

6. Hinduism is PRINCIPLES BASED , not PERSON BASED

7. One should not wish to die: Ved hates death

8. RELIGIOUS DEMOCRACY in Hinduism: Ekam sadvipra bahudhaa vadanti

9. Sanyas is not the goal of Hinduism

10. Sati tradition was an Aasur Tradition, not Vedic at all

Why Hinduism is IMMORTAL?

Ab initio,right from the beginning of the creations, Hinduism claims that it exists:

‘Naasadaaseeno sadaseettadaaneemnaaseedrajo
no vyomaa paro yat,

kimaavareevah kuh kasy’ sharmannambhah kimaaseedgahanam gabheeram?
N’ Mr’tyuraaseedamr’tam n’ tarhi
n’ raatryaa ahn aaseetpraketah,
aaneedavaatam svadhayaa tadekam
tasmaaddhaany’nn’ parah kinchanaas.’

- Ved: 1R|10| 129 Naasadeey’ Sookt| 1-2.

Dr. Isaac Asimov has translated these two

mantrs:

‘Then was not nonexistent nor existent,
there was no realm of air, no sky beyond it.
What covered in, and where?
And what gave shelter? Was water there,
Unfathomed depth of water?
Death was not then,
nor was there aught immortal:
no sign was there, the day’s and night’s divider.
That One Thing, breathless,
breathed by its own nature:
apart from it was nothing whatsoever’.
- Creations: Isaac Asimov: Harrap London 1984: p.101.

Moreover, he has written an introductory note also:

‘Those people whose education and experience have been sharply limited to their own communities are apt to end with a totally self-contained view of the Universe. Their language is the only language. Why should anyone call a boy a knabe or a garcon, when a boy is manifestly a boy?
Again, people who believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God often believe that the King James Bible, specifically, that is so inspired, and turn away in horror from any attempt to correct or modernize what is after all merely a translation. Or as one aged parishioner said, waving his Bible,‘If the King James was good enough for the prophets and apostles, it is good enough for me.’
Yet there are sophisticated attempts at penetrating the mysteries of creation that are neither scientific nor Judo Christian and here is one of them: a Hindu Attempt.
There are points in it that resemble Genesis1 (chaos and darkness first, and then light), and points that do not (the Universe first and gods next, rather than reverse).
- Creations: Isaac Asimov: Harrap London 1984: p.101.

It faced successfully all the aggressions and attacks on it, whether Raxasism of Ravan that had a slogan of ‘Wayam Raxaamah’ ‘We Protect’; Persianism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Communism, atheism and what not .

They converted entire nations elsewhere.
Mind you, not only one nation, NATIONS.
Yet, the same philosophies, the same systems of life, the same religions; marched to India, very aggressively, YET FAILED MISERABLY.

Why is it so?

Even, now the internationally famous, and respected poet, Sir Muhammad Iqbal, when he was an Indian, wrote with a great pride:

‘Kuchh baat hai ki hasti mitti nahin hamari,
dushman raha hai sadiyon, daure jahan hamara.’

What is that ‘baat’?

The humanity of Hinduism, of course!

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Communal Muslims discuss my Muslim wife, me and my Muslim women: Durgesh


Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

13. Saamved: Mantr 1

14. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

Socialism in Hinduism

Socialism refers to any of various economic and political concepts of state or collective (i.e. public) ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods and services, some of which have been developed into more or less highly articulated theories and/or praxis.[1] In a Marxist or labor-movement definition of the term, socialism is a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done with the goal of creating a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[2] This control may be exercised on behalf of the state, through a market, or through popular collectives such as workers’ councils and cooperatives. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, cooperative, or worker ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Hinduism does not oppose PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Yet, it preaches to its followers:

Eishaavaasyamidagvong sarvam,
yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat,
Ten tyakten bhunjeetha,
Maa gr’dhah kasy’ sviddhanam.’

Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.’

‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All;
Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse.
With that renounced, enjoy thyself,
Covet no wealth of anyone.’

Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee but this
so action cleaveth not the man.’

-Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/1-2.’

The policy, how to behave with the Multiverse surrounding us, is described here, in these two Mantrs.

The first point of the policy is,
Eishaavaasyamidagvong  sarvam
‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All,’

What is this ‘all’?
Ved itself elaborates:
yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse.’

The second point of the policy is:
Ten tyakten bhunjeetha
‘With that renounced, enjoy thyself’

This is the reason, why it was enunciated that–
Eishaavaasyamidagvong sarvam
‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All,’

If ‘yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse.’
is panentheable by the Lord, it means THAT IT IS NOT OURS, that it belongs to Eishan Param Brahm Parmatma.

An atheist may laugh at it,

An atheist may laugh at it, but he can’t refuse that:
yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse’
was present here before he was even born, and will CONTINUE to remain here, even when he’ll die.

So, how it can be his/her?

If one insists that there isn’t any God, even then
yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse
can’t be his/her.
It may be that of the nation, but NOT HIS/HER.

It is the fact that’s been reminded here effectively.
Why?
So that a person should not develop an emotion of possession for
yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse‘.

With this true emotion that nothing is actually mine, one should enjoy the multiverse:
Ten tyakten bhunjeetha

This principle, enunciated here, thus destroys all the roots of all possible corruptions.

The PRINCIPLE, thus stated in Ved, however, was not limited actually TO THE VEDIC AGE ONLY.
The Hindus, whether they know about anything of Ved or not, they still believe in:
‘SABAI BHOOMI GOPAL KI.’
‘The entire land belongs to the God.’

What is this strong belief of present day Hindus?
It’s the same old Ved Mantr, expressed in different words only:
”Eishaavaasyamidagvong sarvam’
‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All,’

Ved does not state this principle only lightly in one place.
It repeats the principle AGAIN AND AGAIN, emphasizing thus, that THE VED IS ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
It says:
‘Kevalaagho bhavati kevalaadee.’
‘One is personified sin, if one eats alone.’
It orders its followers:
‘Shathast samaahar, sahasrhast samkir.’
‘Hundred handed! collect from everywhere properly. Thousnd handed! Distribute properly.’
-Ved: 4Atharv Ved: 3/24/5

The question is:
WHY HINDUISM DOES NOT OPPOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY, as Communism and Socialism do?

The question becomes more important when one knows about the philosophical, legal and political debates on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property

Hinduism believes in family.
It orders its followers:
Ihaiv stam maa viyaushtam vishvamaayurvyashnutam,
Kreedantau putrairnaptr’bhirmodmaanau sve gr’he.’

‘Abide only here, both of you, never be separated, Enjoying your entire life:
Sporting with sons and grandsons, happy in your own home.’
-Ved: 1 R’g Ved: 10/85/42

This order was so important,in the eyes of Ved, that it repeats it again, in Atharv Ved, explaining how its followers’ homes should be:

Ihaiv stam maa viyaushtam vishvamaayurvyashnutam,
Kreedantau putrairnaptr’bhirmodmaanau svastakau.’

‘Abide only here, both of you, never be separated, Enjoying your entire life:
Sporting with sons and grandsons, rejoicing well-homed.’
-Ved: 4 Athrv Ved: 14/1/22

Here, Hinduism differs with both the Communism and Socialism, strongly.
Hinduism orders a stout family, for entire lifetime of a person, man or woman.
It orders JOINT FAMILY even.
Communism and Socialism, in their sheer foolishness, are trying their best to destroy it, CREATING, THUS, SO MANY SOCIAL AND MEDICAL PROBLEMS, for their blind supporters.
Including madness and suicides, too.

‘Is capitalism any better.’
No.
I’m not proposing Capitalism.
I’m proposing HINDUISM.
I’m proposing PROFOUND HUMANITY.

I’ve written:
‘Ved does not state this principle only lightly in one place.
It repeats the principle AGAIN AND AGAIN, emphasizing thus, that THE VED IS ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
It says:
‘Kevalaagho bhavati kevalaadee.’
‘One is personified sin, if one eats alone.’
It orders its followers:
‘Shathast samaahar, sahasrhast samkir.’
‘Hundred handed! collect from everywhere properly. Thousnd handed! Distribute properly.’
-Ved: 4Atharv Ved: 3/24/5 ‘

Is it Capitalism?

Certainly NOT.

It’s Hinduism.

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

19. Change the Society . Don’t Surrender to it: Lesson from Life of Karn’

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Communal Muslims discuss my Muslim wife, me and my Muslim women: Durgesh

17. Yes, I chose to marry a man from the kaafir community .: Sidrah

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

6. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

13. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

15. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

16. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

17. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

18. Saamved: Mantr 1

19. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

20. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

21. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Sanyas is not the goal of Hinduism

–DSM Satyarthi

Though it is quite right that Hinduism is the everfirst Philosophy/System of life that preaches spirituality, its goal is not, and was never, SANYAS, the renunciation.

Ved is the ultimate book and the ultimate authority on Hinduism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hinduism.ht…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hindu…
http://hinduism.about.com/
http://www.hinduism.co.za/
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/religion…
http://uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/religionet/er/hindu…
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/index.htm

Yet, it does not preach Sanyas.
Instead, it preaches:
‘Ten tyakten bhunjeetha’
‘With that renounced, enjoy thyself’
‘Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.’

‘Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee, but this,
so action cleaveth not the man.’

-Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/2.’

‘Bhunjeethaa’
‘enjoy thyself’
NOT ‘Tyajeethaa’ ‘Renounce thyself’.

Elsewhere Ved says:
‘Aham bhoomimadadaamaaryaayaaham
vr’shtim daashusshe martyaay’,
Ahamapo anayam vaavashaanaa,
Mam devaaso anu ketamaayan.’

‘I have bestowed the land/earth upon the Aary’/better. I’ve rain upon the one who donates and never forgets that one has to die. I guided forth the loudly roaring waters/beauties/deeds.
The divine ones moved according to my discipline.’
-Ved: 1 R’g Ved: 4/26/2

‘Aham bhoomimadadaamaary’
‘I have bestowed the land/earth upon the Aary’/better.’
FOR WHAT?
To renounce it?
If so, there was no need to BESTOW IT ITSELF ab initio.
Why this useless (Shanno Mitrah! Shaantam Paapam!) bounty then?
If ultimately it was to be renounced, why bestow it ab initio?
So, it’s quite natural to understand that the land/earth ‘bhoomim’ has been bestowed upon the ‘Aary’/the better’ to enjoy it-’Bhunjeethaa‘ ‘Enjoy thyself’, NOT ‘Tyajeethaa’ Renounce thyself’.

Shri Ramcharit Manas describes the attributes of ‘Ram Raajy’:
‘Chaariu charan dharm jag maaheen,
poori rahaa sapnehun agh naaheen.’

‘Dharm had filled the universe with all its four steps. There was no sin at all, even in dreams.’
-Shri Ramcharit Manas: 7 Uttar Kand: 20/3

What are these four steps of Dharm?
Dharm, Arth, Kaam and Mox, naturally.

Lord Ram never resorted to Sanyas.
Lord Kr’shn‘ never did it, too.
Lord Ram is called MARYADA PURUSOTTAM.
Lord Kr’shn‘ is called YOGESHVAR.
What do you mean?
They did not know even WHAT HINDUISM IS?
And they did DHARM SANSTHAPAN even without knowing it?
Nonsense!

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

12. Saamved: Mantr 1

13. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

Sati tradition was an Aasur Tradition, not Vedic at all

DSM Satyarthi

Ved does not preach a wife to burn herself with the dead body of her husband.
There isn’t any such verse.
A person, Suraj, has claimed that:
‘just tell me in ur religion wife has to be burnt alive if his husband dies (this verse has been removed from vedas by swami viveknanda)still u are claming women has equal right in hinduism.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I replied it:
Which verse?
Quote it with proper reference from Pre Vivekanand literature.
No such verse existed ever.
It’s only an anti-Hindu propagnda:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Hindu
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I further confirmed it:
‘True.
I’ve already asked him.
He can’t produce any, because there never was any such verse .
If it was there, why Kaushalya, Kaikeyi, and Sumitra, any of these three widows of Dashrath, did not follow it?
It was an Aasur tradition, not Vedic, at all.
Sulochna followed it, and Ravan did not stop her.
Hindus adopted it afterwards from Asurs, in their profound stupidity.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…

It’s my stand in the matter.
If someone disagrees with me, he/she is most welcome to post his/her arguments with competent references to be checked.

Ved, quite contrary to the so called Sati Tradition, instructs the widows:
‘Udeershv naaryabhi jeevlokam,
gataasumetamup shesh ehi.
Hastgraabhasy’ didhishostavedam
patyurjanitvamabhi sam babhooth.’

‘Stand up, woman! come to the wanted world of living beings.
It is the remnant of the gone, your hand-holder husband’s, maker’s you pregnant, birth.
Behave properly as you like.’
-Ved: 1R’gved: 10|18|8

The words used by Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma are quite clear.
‘Stand up, woman!’
‘Udeershv, naari!’
Don’t sit there helpless.
Collect yourself.

‘Come to the wanted world of living beings.’
‘ABHI JEEVLOKAM EHI.’
‘Ehi=Aa+ihi.”Come.’
‘wanted world of living beings’
‘ABHI JEEVLOKAM’.

‘It is only the remnant of the gone’
‘Gataasumetamup shesh’

It’s not your husband any more.
It’s only his remnant ‘Up Shesh’.
He has gone,’Gataasum’.

‘your hand-holder husband’s’
‘Hastgraabhasy’Patyuh’
‘maker’s you pregnant’
‘didhishostav’

‘Birth”Janitvam’,
NOT DEATH ACTUALLY.

He hasn’t died actually.
He has taken REBIRTH.
This body was not suitable for him. any more.
He has gained a new body.

Lord Kr’shn‘ has explained this phenomena as:
‘Vaasaansi jeern’aani yathaa vihaay’,
navaani gr’hn’aati naro’paraan’i,
tathaa shareeraan’i vihaay’
jeern’aanyanyaani samyaati navaani dehee.
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-22…

‘As a man gets other new apparels giving up old worn out garments,similarly giving up the old worn out bodies, the embodied gets other new ones.’
-Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 2|22
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-22…

The woman is free to do whatever proper for her she likes:
‘Behave properly as you like.’
‘ABHI SAM BABHOOTH’.
-Ved: 1R’gved: 10|18|8

Ved does not take this matter lightly.
It repeats it again in its fourth and concluding volume, Atharv Ved:
‘Udeershv naaryabhi jeevlokam,
gataasumetamup shesh ehi.
Hastgraabhasy’ didhishostavedam
patyurjanitvamabhi sam babhooth.’

‘Stand up, woman! come to the wanted world of living beings.
It is the remnant of the gone, your hand-holder husband’s, maker’s you pregnant, birth.
Behave properly as you like.’
-Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 18|3|2

Exactly the same words, those in R’g Ved 10|18|8

Horace Hayman Wilson comments on this Mantr:

This verse is to be spoken by the husband’s brother etc., to the wife of the dead man, and he is to make her leave her husband’s body.
See the Ashvalaayan Gr’hy’ Sootr: 4|2
.’
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe29/sbe2914…

He further comments:
‘THIS VERSE IS INTERESTING AS SHOWING THAT IN LATEST PART OF THE VAIDIK AGE, THERE WAS NO TRACE OF SUTTEE.’

So, I think, even Horace Hayman Wilson agrees with me, in the matter.

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

17 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

19. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

20. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

26. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

28. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

36. Saamved: Mantr 1

37. Sāmved: Mantr 115

38. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

39. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

40. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

41. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

42.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

43. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

44. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

45. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

46. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

48. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

50. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

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Atheism can’t win Hinduism/Ved

DSM Satyarthi


In April 2008, there was an interesting discussion on Ved, Hinduism and atheism.
I reproduce it here, with every word, in original, for the benefit of the interested persons:
Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Man you guys suck!!! How stupid is this post. All you stupid Pakis are obsessed about your Islam and your f**ked-up Allah, while all you stupid Indians are obsessed about Hinduism and other shit. Religion SUCKS! It is the biggest destroyer of lives and love in the world. If only religion never existed. Of course it must be noted that however religious the people are, at least India is officially a secular country, while even the Pak govt is obsessed about Islam shit. Racially both India and Pak is the same. It’s not Pak’s fault they got beaten at the wars, India is a bigger and richer country. But all that shit about Indians doing cool science and shit before the west is bullshit. All lies propagated by BJP etc. Me, I am neutral, even though I’m Indian. I don’t give a damn about holy f**king cow gods or shapeless Mohammed-f**ker Allah. All that is BULLSHIT. But at least Indian economy is doing really good, and Indians have the power in their country to protest and select their own govt. We never had a dictator. But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c346

I commented lightly:
‘Though I differ with you in your views about religion, I love your request :’But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c347

Indiann Nanaimo, Canada said:
‘They are HOTTEST because

For centuries they have been abducting HOTTEST girls from all over Asia.
And hiding there faces
They are the daughters of the ones they abducted for years.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c348

I again commented lightly:
‘I repeat Adi’s request once again:’But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on’.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c349

Actually, their women are themselves asking for it now:

Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad’:

http://dsms.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/muslimahs-come-to-india-i-recommend-hindu-lovers-for-all-the-muslimahs-khadeejah-muhammad/

True Indian Lorain, OH responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
Man you guys suck!!! How stupid is this post. All you stupid Pakis are obsessed about your Islam and your f**ked-up Allah, while all you stupid Indians are obsessed about Hinduism and other shit. Religion SUCKS! It is the biggest destroyer of lives and love in the world. If only religion never existed. Of course it must be noted that however religious the people are, at least India is officially a secular country, while even the Pak govt is obsessed about Islam shit. Racially both India and Pak is the same. It’s not Pak’s fault they got beaten at the wars, India is a bigger and richer country. But all that shit about Indians doing cool science and shit before the west is bullshit. All lies propagated by BJP etc. Me, I am neutral, even though I’m Indian. I don’t give a damn about holy f**king cow gods or shapeless Mohammed-f**ker Allah. All that is BULLSHIT. But at least Indian economy is doing really good, and Indians have the power in their country to protest and select their own govt. We never had a dictator. But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on.

ur father n mother r f..ker…how dare u to write against hindu gods?..u r welcome accept islam..we dont need u in our hinduism..
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…

I again commented lightly:
‘How do you know he is really a Hindu?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c351

True Indian Lorain, OH responded:
‘If he is not hindu…its really good..We dont want such f..kers in our Hinduism…and if he is not hindu and saying abusing about hindu gods…he has no right to live in India.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c352

Adi declared:
‘I am NOT a Hindu. Please don’t insult me by putting me in any religion. I am an out-and-out atheist. My whole family is Hindu, my parents etc etc. and so is everyone else around me. But I am educated and scientific enough to know that religion is bullshit, all religions including hinduism, islam, christianity, sikhism, jainism, judaism etc etc. Why don’t you people realise that GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!! I mean, how can you believe in something that DOES NOT EXIST? I have no right to live in India? Who says India is a Hindu country? India is a SECULAR country, which means even superior people (i.e. atheists) like me who believe in science and not superstitions have a right to live here. And I have the freedom of speech, I can insult any religion I want. Let’s see you insult my religion, i.e. science, True Indian.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c353

My response to it:
‘I suspected it from your comments.
I don’t “insult”(?) you by putting you in any religion. Moreover, I congratulate you for being a best son to insult your father, mother and all your family by calling them Hindu.
Great! what an atheist tradition!
Insult your father, insult your mother, insult your family. It is the proof that you are a good atheist.
I congratulate you Mr. Atheist! you are brave enough to kick your father, mother, and family on their butts.
Enjoy the high morals of atheism.
Best of luck.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c354

I said to True Indian:
True Indian wrote:
‘If he is not hindu…its really good..We dont want such f..kers in our Hinduism…and if he is not hindu and saying abusing about hindu gods…he has no right to live in India.’

He has confessed now. I told you so already.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c355

Adi said:
‘Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism. I’ll say I don’t have any. Or if you call science, ethics, logic etc religion, those are all mine. I’m not saying calling anyone a Hindu is insulting them. But calling me a Hindu is insulting me.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c356

goldendame New Delhi India said:
‘Adi,

I guess you have not understood Hinduism properly. Hinduism is not just praying to God or conducting poojas. I don’t do that either, but I still call myself a staunch Hindu. Reason being, Hinduism is not a religion, it is a way of life.

**********
Hinduism is a way of living according to the one’s understanding of principles of Vedas and Upanishads.

Veda is revealed knowledge. Just as the knowledge of gravity was revealed to Newton, similarly, in India, many Rishis or Seers were awakened to certain transcendental Eternal Truths. These Rishis realized that their real nature was not concerned with or linked with ‘body or mind’, nor was it dependent on sense perceptions, but was in fact identical with the Universal Consciousness.

Upanishad means ‘to sit down near’ because they were explained to the students, who sat at the feet of their teachers. In general Upanishads proclaim salvation by knowledge and realization, rather than by faith and works.

**********

PS: The above 3 paragraphs are a ref from Hindu Forum where someone has written about Hinduism and I found it apt to quote here.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…

Hinduism is not just praying to Idols… Hinduism has many branches. Ayurveda, Yoga, Astrology, Astronomy – amongst others are part of Hinduism.

Hinduism is full of logics, you can visit the Hindu forum and discuss the same there.

My response to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism. I’ll say I don’t have any. Or if you call science, ethics, logic etc religion, those are all mine. I’m not saying calling anyone a Hindu is insulting them. But calling me a Hindu is insulting me.’

Sorry! I can’t grasp your logic, Mr. Adi! You say calling you Hindu is insulting to you but not insulting to your parents and family. How is it possible? If the word ‘Hindu’ is insulting like dog or donkey or swine it is insulting to everybody. If it is not so, it is not insulting to you also. Or you feel insulted if you are called wise, brilliant, capable even? What do you think the word ‘Hindu’ means? An idolater? No, it does not. Perhaps you haven’t gone through it’s Sanskr’t dictionary meaning ever. I know. You don’t need it. All the atheists who were born in a Hindu family are fools enough that they lose their logic. They attach one meaning to a word for them and completely another meaning to the same word for others. You are following the same tradition among you so called atheists. What do you know about Hinduism that you hate it so much? I don’t think you know Sanskr’t even and have gone through Ved ever. Do you realize what are you doing? You are hating something which you don’t know even what it is actually in its full form. And you call you are following logic and science!What a joke!
Well, keep it on.
Mr. Adi! I am proud of being Hindu because only Hinduism is the hope for humanity today. Thank Hinduism that has taught its followers to be liberal enough to bear with persons like you.
We Hindus practice religious democracy that even you atheists don’t:

‘RELIGIOUS DEMOCRACY in Hinduism: Ekam sadvipra bahudhaa vadanti’:

http://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/religious-democracy-in-hinduism-ekam-sadvipra-bahudhaa-vadanti/

We are not fools to hate something we don’t know altogether.
You don’t know Hinduism yet you hate it.
Very brilliant of you!
Isn’t it?’

‘Hinduism is PRINCIPLES BASED , not PERSON BASED’:

‘Whom do I worship?: DSM Satyarthi’

‘Sanyas is not the goal of Hinduism’

‘Socialism in Hinduism’

‘Why Hinduism is IMMORTAL?’

‘One should not wish to die: Ved hates death:DSM Satyarthi

‘Why did Lord Kr’shn marry 16,100 Sheikhzadis?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c359

True Indian Lorain, OH responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I am NOT a Hindu. Please don’t insult me by putting me in any religion. I am an out-and-out atheist. My whole family is Hindu, my parents etc etc. and so is everyone else around me. But I am educated and scientific enough to know that religion is bullshit, all religions including hinduism, islam, christianity, sikhism, jainism, judaism etc etc. Why don’t you people realise that GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!! I mean, how can you believe in something that DOES NOT EXIST? I have no right to live in India? Who says India is a Hindu country? India is a SECULAR country, which means even superior people (i.e. atheists) like me who believe in science and not superstitions have a right to live here. And I have the freedom of speech, I can insult any religion I want. Let’s see you insult my religion, i.e. science, True Indian.

You r alive because of India and Hinduism..if u live in any muslim country u would be probably killed ..and u deserve it…

U cant insult hindu God the reason is it is insulting of 87 crore Hindus….and we dont forgive those who insult us…this is not ur problem…ur parents r fool…they dont know what to teach u ..they did a big mistake by giving born to u..and they will pay it in future.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c360

I responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism. I’ll say I don’t have any. Or if you call science, ethics, logic etc religion, those are all mine. I’m not saying calling anyone a Hindu is insulting them. But calling me a Hindu is insulting me.

You say:

‘Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism.’
It means your parents lie?

Well, how much you continue this great tradition?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c361

True Indian Lorain, OH said:
‘Soon Narendra Modi is coming to Delhi and the ppl like u are thrown away to pakistan very soon so be prepare for it….Shame on u and ur parents..

U look like small kid..but where r ur parents…dont they have mind ..they will pay for doing this mistake.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c362

I said:
‘goldendame wrote:
<quoted text>
Adi,
I guess you have not understood Hinduism properly. Hinduism is not just praying to God or conducting poojas. I don’t do that either, but I still call myself a staunch Hindu. Reason being, Hinduism is not a religion, it is a way of life.
**********
Hinduism is a way of living according to the one’s understanding of principles of Vedas and Upanishads.
Veda is revealed knowledge. Just as the knowledge of gravity was revealed to Newton, similarly, in India, many Rishis or Seers were awakened to certain transcendental Eternal Truths. These Rishis realized that their real nature was not concerned with or linked with ‘body or mind’, nor was it dependent on sense perceptions, but was in fact identical with the Universal Consciousness.
Upanishad means ‘to sit down near’ because they were explained to the students, who sat at the feet of their teachers. In general Upanishads proclaim salvation by knowledge and realization, rather than by faith and works.
**********
PS: The above 3 paragraphs are a ref from Hindu Forum where someone has written about Hinduism and I found it apt to quote here

Mr. Adi! I wait your scientific criticism over it that you are so proud of. Let’s talk about your atheist logics Mr. Adi! I think all the atheists are fools. Prove me wrong! I invite you.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c363

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I don’t have to prove anything to people who believe in stuff that have no proofs.
Prove you wrong? Prove yourself right. Show me your god. I mean, an earthquake comes, is it seismic waves and release of the earth’s core energy? No, it’s lord shiva angry with humanity or something. Hindus are not secular. You heard what the ‘true indian’ said. Narendra Modi sucks, look at his forehead, covered with ashes or something. Most of the people who are sadhus and stuff aren’t even literate. Whereas none of the highly-educated people practice religion much. We have secularism and democracy because luckily the people who created out national government were educated in the west. I don’t hate Hinduism in particular. I hate all religions in general. Thrown to pakistan? Hahaha. So is India going to become a Hindu country? What the hell are you doing in USA,’true indian’? If India is a Hindu country then US is a christian country, and you’d be very happy if the americans kicked your a** like your great modi is planning to kick mine. Atheists don’t practice democracy? All the great democracies of the world are secular states, eg US, France, Britain, India etc. You are trying too make India into Saudi Arabia, only Hindu instead of Muslin. What difference does that make?’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…

‘It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c365

My response:
‘And why I have to show you my God?

Who do you think you are to ask me for it?

You are using the word my ‘God’. Do you know what is my concept of God?

‘Whom do I worship?’:

http://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/whom-do-i-worship-dsm-satyarthi/

And yet without knowing even it, you are asking me to show you my God.

You don’t know what I think of God and even then asking me to show Him to you.
This is an example of your so called atheist scientific logic.

You are proving what I said true.

All the atheists are outright fools.

They don’t know even how to logic.’

http://www.topix.com/fAdi from New Delhi wrote:
It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

I responded:
‘A second example of stupidity of atheists.

How do you know I feel insulted if you call me a Muslim? How do you know?

You assume it, like all the other foolish atheists assume; and do not try to know.
You assume.
Your atheism is nothing except some foolish assumptions of yours.
Hinduism stands on revelations.
Atheism stands on assumptions!
And they say they have logic and science on their sides.
Great!

If nobody calls you superior you yourself go ahead and pat your back calling you superior!
What a scientific and logical attitude!
Isn’t it?

And isn’t it the third proof that all the atheists are outright fools?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c367

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘I don’t have to prove anything to people who believe in stuff that have no proofs.
Prove you wrong? Prove yourself right. Show me your god. I mean, an earthquake comes, is it seismic waves and release of the earth’s core energy? No, it’s lord shiva angry with humanity or something. Hindus are not secular. You heard what the ‘true indian’ said. Narendra Modi sucks, look at his forehead, covered with ashes or something. Most of the people who are sadhus and stuff aren’t even literate. Whereas none of the highly-educated people practice religion much. We have secularism and democracy because luckily the people who created out national government were educated in the west. I don’t hate Hinduism in particular. I hate all religions in general. Thrown to pakistan? Hahaha. So is India going to become a Hindu country? What the hell are you doing in USA,’true indian’? If India is a Hindu country then US is a christian country, and you’d be very happy if the americans kicked your a** like your great modi is planning to kick mine. Atheists don’t practice democracy? All the great democracies of the world are secular states, eg US, France, Britain, India etc. You are trying too make India into Saudi Arabia, only Hindu instead of Muslin. What difference does that make?’

I responded:
‘You don’t have to prove because you can’t prove.
How do you know I believe in stuff that have no proof?

How do you know what I believe and what I don’t?
You assume!

Don’t you?
Mr. scientific! Mr. Logical! you assume too much.

You don’t think there is any need to know something before proving it wrong.
How biased you are!
What a scientific and logical attitude of yours!
Salute to your great scientific and logical wisdom! Wow!’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c368

True Indian Lorain, OH responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I don’t have to prove anything to people who believe in stuff that have no proofs.
Prove you wrong? Prove yourself right. Show me your god. I mean, an earthquake comes, is it seismic waves and release of the earth’s core energy? No, it’s lord shiva angry with humanity or something. Hindus are not secular. You heard what the ‘true indian’ said. Narendra Modi sucks, look at his forehead, covered with ashes or something. Most of the people who are sadhus and stuff aren’t even literate. Whereas none of the highly-educated people practice religion much. We have secularism and democracy because luckily the people who created out national government were educated in the west. I don’t hate Hinduism in particular. I hate all religions in general. Thrown to pakistan? Hahaha. So is India going to become a Hindu country? What the hell are you doing in USA,’true indian’? If India is a Hindu country then US is a christian country, and you’d be very happy if the americans kicked your a** like your great modi is planning to kick mine. Atheists don’t practice democracy? All the great democracies of the world are secular states, eg US, France, Britain, India etc. You are trying too make India into Saudi Arabia, only Hindu instead of Muslin. What difference does that make?

India is ready to invite all the religion but not its terror…India accept muslims but not terror
India accept christians not their forcibly converstion..
India accepts sikhs but not khalistan movement..

India is secular…but dont bow in front of minorities…This is the face of India…

U r acceptable in Hinduism….and as i told u before too..this is not ur fault…ur parents r biggest fools of the earth who didnt slap u on ur thoughts…so I dont want to talk to u..its not ur fault.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…


Adi from New Delhi wrote:
It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

True Indian said:
‘We dont want to call u hindu..We dont want to talk to u..We want to talk to ur parents who gave born to u..(shame on ur parents..they cant give their religion to their son..f..kers..)’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c370

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I’m not asking you to bow to minorities. Obviously that’s wrong. Obviously terror and forced conversions etc are wrong. But that’s not the debate here. The debate is whether religion is right or not. I don’t really have time to think much about how people prove religion etc. And your parents are the f**kers… let me explain. For eg, when we were both kids, we both would have asked our parents “What is lightning?”. My parents would have said “Lightning is a highly charged bolt of electricity caused by potential difference between rainclouds and the earth’s surface.” Your parents would have said “Lightning is lord indra throwing down his heavenly spears.” Now tell me, which set of parents f**ked their kid up?

I’m an atheist, therefore, I assume nothing. Anything which is proved to me, I believe. As your religion and god and hours of chanting mantra and not eating beef has not got you any tangible results, I refuse to believe in it. Once again, show me proof of god, and I will believe.

Science cannot answer everthing. At least not yet. There are millions of unanswered questions in the universe. But trying to make up answers instead of searching for them (which is what religion is), is hypocracy. Whatever the answers really are, only through science can we know them.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c371

‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought. Anyone who believes in religion is free to do so. I’m not trying to force you into not doing that. All I’m giving here is my opinion. Which is of course based on material evidence, not on faith on unseen and unfelt powers, gods etc. My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c372

True Indian Lorain, OH said:
‘I m religious that doesnt mean i dont believe in technology…I m technology graduate so dont try to teach me how light is working…My parents r also engineers so they know what is truth…

and u r telling ur parents r hindu so ur grandfather taught ur parents that indra throws light from sky..etc..so ultimately u proved ur grandfathers r f..ker….am i right or u say something wrong??’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c373

My response to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I’m not asking you to bow to minorities. Obviously that’s wrong. Obviously terror and forced conversions etc are wrong. But that’s not the debate here. The debate is whether religion is right or not. I don’t really have time to think much about how people prove religion etc. And your parents are the f**kers… let me explain. For eg, when we were both kids, we both would have asked our parents “What is lightning?”. My parents would have said “Lightning is a highly charged bolt of electricity caused by potential difference between rainclouds and the earth’s surface.” Your parents would have said “Lightning is lord indra throwing down his heavenly spears.” Now tell me, which set of parents f**ked their kid up?
I’m an atheist, therefore, I assume nothing. Anything which is proved to me, I believe. As your religion and god and hours of chanting mantra and not eating beef has not got you any tangible results, I refuse to believe in it. Once again, show me proof of god, and I will believe.
Science cannot answer everthing. At least not yet. There are millions of unanswered questions in the universe. But trying to make up answers instead of searching for them (which is what religion is), is hypocracy. Whatever the answers really are, only through science can we know them.’

I said to it:
‘Well, you are answering True Indian not me.
My questions still hammer on your head.
The only portion I can relate to my questions is this:
‘I’m an atheist, therefore, I assume nothing. Anything which is proved to me, I believe. As your religion and god and hours of chanting mantra and not eating beef has not got you any tangible results, I refuse to believe in it. Once again, show me proof of god, and I will believe.’
Again, assuming many things and still not knowing what you are doing even.

How do you know that my religion, and God, and hours of chanting Mantr and not eating beef has not got me any tangible results?
How do you even know I chant Mantr for hours?
You assume it.
Do you not?
And you call it a scientific and logical attitude.
What a brilliant person your atheism has made you.
Don’t try to know anything about other person before contradicting him, just go on assuming and criticizing your own foolish assumptions about him blindly.
That’s why I call you all atheists foolish.
Keep it on. The wise persons are laughing and enjoying your foolish answers very much.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c374

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I am NOT talking about you in particular, “Humanity”. I am talking about Hinduism as a whole. And ‘True Indian’, my grandparents taught my parents exactly the same things as my parents taught me. It’s just that they don’t mind someone calling them hindu. I do. And if you do believe in science, you’ll know that the answers science and religion give to the same question are often different and contradicting. Which would you believe in such an occasion? In that lightning question, if you do believe in the eletricity explaination, then aren’t you discarding Hinduism?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c375

I said:
‘I think you must first answer True Indian as you find his questions easily answerable to you.
We’ll talk when you will finish with him.

It will give you more time to think, if you can, how to answer my questions.
You have written to me:’I am NOT talking about you in particular, “Humanity”. I am talking about Hinduism as a whole.’
O.K. Please tell me what Hinduism is.
As you have so deep knowledge of Hinduism that you are talking about Hinduism as a whole.
I am confessing to you openly with all my senses in proper condition, that I do not know what the whole Hinduism is after all.
You have known it because you are criticizing it.
It will give me some knowledge of Hinduism more that I still do not know.
We Hindus believe:
‘Ananta vai Vedah!”Ved is infinite in knowledge’.

Each and everything which the multiverse has and the existence beyond even multiverse, is described in Ved in its basic form.
‘Sarve Abhihite Vede sarvgyaanmayo hi sah.”Everything is there in Ved. Ved contains the entire knowledge’.’
Principally, where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one.

Ved is the knowledge given to us Hinus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.
You know it as a whole!

Very good!
Please enlighten me by answering this simple question–’What Is Hinduism?’
According to Hinduism why the God made the creations?
Let’s start from the beginning itself.
Okay?
I’m waiting eagerly for your valuable answers.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c376

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘Really? So you mean all the vedas arrived by fax from heaven, is it. The four books fell to earth from the skies? No they did not. They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe. They treated the dravidians (who were more intelligent than them, look at the tamilians) like shit, and they proclaimed that the vedas had come from the almighty. Every religion is like that. Mohammed claimed the quran had been told to him by allah, the bible claims jesus was really the son of god. IT’S NOT TRUE!!! These books were written by MEN, MORTALS THE SAME AS YOU AND I.

I don’t have intricate knowledge about hinduism. I’m not really interested. But I know some of the practices of Hinduism. It’s all around me, India’s full of it. And those practices are useless. They’re all a waste of time. You could spend the time you go to the temple and pray in doing some useful stuff, like studying, or playing football (I hate cricket, but if you like it you can play that too) or teaching, doing business, or creating music, anything valuable, anything that helps your country develop and you prosper. I know a lot about Indian culture, and it’s brilliant. Indian classical music is amazing. But so is so many other cultures. If you seperate culture from religion, you’ll see how much better they are on their own.

I’m sorry but I haven’t read the vedas. I don’t know much about why god (??) created the universe. I have read Ramayana, Mahabharata, the Bible and the Qoran. They’re all wonderfull peices of literature and make very good reading. But that’s all they are. They’re BOOKS. They’re fiction. THEY’RE NOT TRUE.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c377

True Indian Lorain, OH said:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I am NOT talking about you in particular, “Humanity”. I am talking about Hinduism as a whole. And ‘True Indian’, my grandparents taught my parents exactly the same things as my parents taught me. It’s just that they don’t mind someone calling them hindu. I do. And if you do believe in science, you’ll know that the answers science and religion give to the same question are often different and contradicting. Which would you believe in such an occasion? In that lightning question, if you do believe in the eletricity explaination, then aren’t you discarding Hinduism?

Who told u in Hinduism it is written like Indra is throwing light..etc..Did u read it in any religious book?

The technology used at the time of Lord Ram was very much advanced….the ppl on those days also believe in Technology…do u know this?

Religion is the faith of ppl..ppl believe that there is some centre power who is control everything on earth…it is faith of ppl..and u dont have any right to play with it…so shut ur mouth.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c378

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Really? So you mean all the vedas arrived by fax from heaven, is it. The four books fell to earth from the skies? No they did not. They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe. They treated the dravidians (who were more intelligent than them, look at the tamilians) like shit, and they proclaimed that the vedas had come from the almighty. Every religion is like that. Mohammed claimed the quran had been told to him by allah, the bible claims jesus was really the son of god. IT’S NOT TRUE!!! These books were written by MEN, MORTALS THE SAME AS YOU AND I.
I don’t have intricate knowledge about hinduism. I’m not really interested. But I know some of the practices of Hinduism. It’s all around me, India’s full of it. And those practices are useless. They’re all a waste of time. You could spend the time you go to the temple and pray in doing some useful stuff, like studying, or playing football (I hate cricket, but if you like it you can play that too) or teaching, doing business, or creating music, anything valuable, anything that helps your country develop and you prosper. I know a lot about Indian culture, and it’s brilliant. Indian classical music is amazing. But so is so many other cultures. If you seperate culture from religion, you’ll see how much better they are on their own.
I’m sorry but I haven’t read the vedas. I don’t know much about why god (??) created the universe. I have read Ramayana, Mahabharata, the Bible and the Qoran. They’re all wonderfull peices of literature and make very good reading. But that’s all they are. They’re BOOKS. They’re fiction. THEY’RE NOT TRUE.’

I said:
‘Good to find you talking to me at last.
I knew you can’t talk seriously.

No atheist can.

You all go to senseless talks.
For example, who said to you that the Ved is received by fax?

Not me.

You are talking to me yet you are not answering me.

You are still keeping on to assume and assume and assume, and then start answering your foolish assumptions by criticizing them.
You are not the first.

All your colleagues do it.
They enjoy it very much.

They can’t criticize real Hinduism, so they have devised this unique method:

‘Don’t listen to Hindus ever.

Only pretend to listen to them and while pretending, go on to assume as many foolish things as you can.

When once they stop, you start to reiterate your foolish assumptions imposing them on Hindus and go on criticizing them.’
What a scientific and logical attitude!
And you say you are superior to us!

How?

Shame on you and your foolish comrades.
Why can’t you be true to yourselves at least?

Why can’t you see in the mirror how foolish you are?
Who said you that Ved is received by fax so you are criticizing it?

I certainly did not.
You have foolishly written:
‘The four books fell to earth from the skies? No they did not.’
Who said to you that the four books fell to earth from the sky that you are criticizing it and blessing me with your bounty to tell that ‘No, they did not.’?
What a bounty from you!

We Hindus thought they were received by fax.

The four books fell to earth from the skies.’

Now, you have revealed the greatest fact on us that it was not so.
All the Hindus are so much indebted to your scientific revelation.
Nonsense!

Always assuming foolishly and then criticizing own foolish assumptions!
These are the atheists!
The greatest fools I’ve seen till now!

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c379

‘You have written:

‘They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe.’

Of course they were writtn by Aryans.

I never said that the God wrote them.

He is beyond doing these silly things.

Even a short lived executive has his steno.

We can’t assume God not to have even that facility or alike.

However, you are talking of history till now not of principles.

History is not Hinduism.

Hinduism has history.

I will not argue with you about the Aryan Invasion theory.

You are too ill informed about it even.

You have not updated yourself and yet you are preaching me foolishly your outdated theories as if they are facts proven.

I won’t argue it because it does not concern our present discussion.

Our present discussion is what is Hinduism.

It does not make any difference whether Aryans came from Central Asia, from outer space or from your own house!

Let them come from anywhere!

I’ll not claim even that they were aboriginal residents of India.

As I say it has no effect on our present discussion.

You just keep on to bring every extraneous matter under discussion as you want.

It’s the foolish strategy all the atheists adopt as they can’t talk to the point.

I am vigilant enough to throw away all the extraneous gibberish to keep you on track.
You have written:

‘I don’t have intricate knowledge about Hinduism. I’m not really interested. But I know some of the practices of Hinduism.’
I knew you can’t talk about Hinduism because you don’t know about it.

You are talking about practices.

Every science and Philosophy has its two components:

‘Theory and Practice’.
Theory is a definite thing and it does not differ from person to person.

Practice depends on lot of things.

The ingenuity of the persons who are practicing it, plays a huge part.

In fact no two persons practice a theory alike.

They are not expected to even.

Practice, as such, differs from person to person.

You call this uncertain thing, ‘Hinduism’?

How brilliant of you!
Hinduism has its theory part in Ved.

And, for your kind information Mr. Atheist! The Hinduism is what the Ved tells us.
You haven’t read Ved.

So actually you don’t even know what Hinduism is.
You hate certain practices that differ everywhere.

You can do that.

I myself hate a lot of them.

I myself criticize openly lots of them that they are outright against Ved.

I don’t think I’m doing any harm to Hinduism.

On the contrary, I think I’m serving Hinduism far better than its so called other practitioners.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c380

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I don’t get it. You’re critizing yet being so general. You never point out anything specific. You’re always saying I’m so illogical etc. I qoute you:

“Principally where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one.

Ved is the knowledge given to us Hindus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.”

You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine?

I was using a similie.

I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.

I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism.

Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.

Religion is ALL in the mind.

There has never been any natural evidence to support any practices of any religion.

If people would have searched for natural truth (which is what science is), we would have been far more advanced a world than we are now.

And you yourself know that as more and more is being known about nature, more deseases are being cured, the inherent NEED for religion and a belief in god of man is eroding.

Religion is slowly being wiped out.

It is happening much more fast in the west, but even in India, especially among the urban middle class, the trend of abandoning religion and embracing logic is growing.

For example (I’m quoting from Wikipedia), 70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.

This has to happen.

Religion is an outdated concept.

It cannot last.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c381

I said:
‘You are not specific yourself.

How the answer could be specific?

However, nothing is lost even now!

We can discuss further.
You write:
‘You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine? I was using a similie. I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.’
That’s what I mean.
It’s the theory you atheists have developed.

Yet, you treat and want us theists, to accept it as fact.
Why do you  think us fools, while the foolish acts are being done by you atheists, yourselves?

Mind you! I am using plural, not particularly you.
Lenin started it as a policy not to hear theists when they criticize the atheism.
He had especially instructed his followers not to join any argument with the theists if they talk with rationality and logic.
They must be criticized irrespective of how rational and logical they might be.
He instructed them logic with them when they are illogical and don’t logic with them when they are logical.
If you had gone through all the writings of Lenin you would have find it.

If you have not, you should, as Lenin was one of the most successful atheists.

Though, his atheism was not behind his success, it was his ingenuity.
You claim to be a person of scientific attitude yet you resort to simile when we start argument.
I have written:
‘You have written : ‘They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe.’

Of course they were written by Aryans.

I never said that the God wrote them.

He is beyond doing these silly things.

Even a short lived executive has his steno. We can’t assume God not to have even that facility or alike.’
It was a complete answer to you in the matter, yet you repeat it again.
What do you mean?
We should accept your foolish theories as universal facts?

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c384

‘You write:
‘I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.’
How do you know?
What proof you have for it?
You think all our Rishis were liars?
Only you atheists are truthful?
I can’t buy it.
When we compare the characters of our Rishis and that of you atheists we find them more truthful than you persons are.
It is observed, in practice, that the liars make theft of others’ successful literary work and produce them as their own.
I haven’t seen a person who write as beautiful and as eternal literature as Ved and instead claiming the credit for it gives the credit to others.
Nobody does it.
However you are claiming it is the case in the matter.
How can I believe?
How many books have you written, or your friends, and attributed to others?
How many articles have you written or your friends and attributed to others?
How many poems have you written, or your friends, and attributed to others?
My dear friend! No one is as mad as  to do it.
Yet, you want me to believe this already super flop, rejected, and outdated crazy theory of Marx and Lenin?
Ved is a large literary and humanistic work.
It consists of more than even 20,000 verses.
This great literary and humanistic work was done and its writers did not claim they had written it.
They attributed it to God.
They claimed they saw it, not conceived.
It is not theirs.
It is given to them.
This alone act tells to any sane person that they were telling the truth.
The same writers who claimed that Ved were given to them, have written other books.
Those other books even lose the multiversal eternal concept and profound humanity we find in Ved.
These other books lack the depth Ved has.
How can it be if the Ved and the other books are from the same source?
A writer revises, improves himself in his later work more and more.

later work of the same Rishis must outexcel Ved more and more.
We find the case is not as such.
Ved outexcels on all the later Aryan work.
It itself establishes beyond all doubt that Ved is not their work.
So, my dear friend! you are quite mistaken.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c385

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought. Anyone who believes in religion is free to do so. I’m not trying to force you into not doing that. All I’m giving here is my opinion. Which is of course based on material evidence, not on faith on unseen and unfelt powers, gods etc. My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’

I said:
‘You write:
‘My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’
And, similarly, if we extend your logic, how many lives would have been saved if Communism never existed!
Evidently, Communism is not a religion, at least the Communists don’t claim so.
It did not last even 75 years.
It could not complete even a century.
Yet, the lives, it did cost, were thousands of millions.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c401

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought. Anyone who believes in religion is free to do so. I’m not trying to force you into not doing that. All I’m giving here is my opinion. Which is of course based on material evidence, not on faith on unseen and unfelt powers, gods etc. My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’

I said:
‘You have written:
‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought.’
Communism does not believe in freedom of thought.
Go to the entire history of Soviet Empire which could not complete even a 3/4 century.
Through out its tenure the very first thing it snatched out of its people was the very freedom of thought you are talking of.’

Hinduism believes in Religious democracy, however.

‘RELIGIOUS DEMOCRACY in Hinduism: Ekam sadvipra bahudhaa vadanti’.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c402

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

I said:
‘Let me clear myself.
While going through this discussion again, I realized that perhaps I haven’t written anywhere what the true meaning of the word ‘Hindu’ according to Sanskr’t dictionary.
As none asked me perhaps I let it go at that.
Please allow me to provide the necessity.
According to Standard Sanskr’t Dictionaries,’Hindu’means:
‘Hindurdushtnr’h prokto’nary’neetividooshakah,
Saddharmpalako vidvan Shrautdharmparayanah’
‘A Hindu is called to be the one who never compromises with the wicked. He destroys the policies against humanism. He practices the system of life that is noble. He is intelligent and learned. He par excelles in the system of life described in Ved.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c403

Adi said:
‘I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.’

I said:
‘Hinduism did not say to follow corrupt practices.
In democracy, the malpractitioner candidates appeal to caste, creed, and selfish desires of certain groups of voters.
By extending your reasoning, one can claim: ‘If Democracy did not exist no malpractitioner candidate would have appealed to caste, creed and selfish desires to the voters, and would have divided the humanity.’
Do you think this reasoning correct?
Certainly not.
Then how what you say make Hinduism responsible for malpractices of its so called followers?
Why only followers are not responsible for what they did?
Why Hinduism in Principle?
Hinduism never preached them those malpractices.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c405

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘I don’t get it. You’re critizing yet being so general. You never point out anything specific. You’re always saying I’m so illogical etc. I qoute you:
“Principally where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one. Ved is the knowledge given to us Hinus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.”
You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine? I was using a similie. I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.
I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.
Religion is ALL in the mind. There has never been any natural evidence to support any practices of any religion. If people would have searched for natural truth (which is what science is), we would have been far more advanced a world than we are now. And you yourself know that as more and more is being known about nature, more deseases are being cured, the inherent NEED for religion and a belief in god of man is eroding. Religion is slowly being wiped out. It is happening much more fast in the west, but even in India, especially among the urban middle class, the trend of abandoning religion and embracing logic is growing.
For example (I’m quoting from Wikipedia), 70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.
This has to happen. Religion is an outdated concept. It cannot last.

‘I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.’

I said:

‘Interesting! What a logic!
If there were no nuclear science, there were no atom bomb, no Hiroshima, no Nagasaki, no terrorist country could have nuclear weapon. If there were no science, there were no nuclear science even!
I wonder whether I am talking to even a sane person!’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c409

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘I don’t get it. You’re critizing yet being so general. You never point out anything specific. You’re always saying I’m so illogical etc. I qoute you:
“Principally where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one. Ved is the knowledge given to us Hinus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.”
You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine? I was using a similie. I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.
I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.
Religion is ALL in the mind. There has never been any natural evidence to support any practices of any religion. If people would have searched for natural truth (which is what science is), we would have been far more advanced a world than we are now. And you yourself know that as more and more is being known about nature, more deseases are being cured, the inherent NEED for religion and a belief in god of man is eroding. Religion is slowly being wiped out. It is happening much more fast in the west, but even in India, especially among the urban middle class, the trend of abandoning religion and embracing logic is growing.
For example (I’m quoting from Wikipedia), 70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.
This has to happen. Religion is an outdated concept. It cannot last.’

I said:

‘Religion is ALL in the mind.’
Science is also not elsewhere.
If you are really a science student perhaps you have come across the statements of renowned scientists that in quantum theory and atomic theory the mental condition of the scientist plays a huge part.
Why is it so if these theories are not ‘all in mind’?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c410

‘We Hindus practice religious democracy that even you atheists don’t.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TK4C9MBC2CTRIGT42

’70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.’

It’s in Britain, because Britain is not a Hindu dominated nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#O…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#C…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#E…

I’m sorry to say that Christianity is not capable to face atheism.
However, it does not mean that Hinduism does also suffer the same weaknesses as Christianity does.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/T9NFQK5E77ANU5R13

Adi says:

It’s not Pak’s fault they got beaten at the wars, India is a bigger and richer country.’

I’m again sorry to disagree with our Mr. Adi here too.

India is bigger and richer, is not a fact unknown to anyone.

Naturally, every Government of Pakistan, irrespective of the fact whosoever it may be, knows the fact too.

Then why it fights with India at all?

That’s why its Pak’s fault, Mr. Adi, not anyone else’s.

Keep your sense of justice on the right track, at least,  if not the rest of your senses.

You say you are impartial.

Be justified too.

Thanks for bearing with me so long.

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Communal Muslims discuss my Muslim wife, me and my Muslim women: Durgesh

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

17 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

19. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

20. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

26. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

28. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

36. Saamved: Mantr 1

37. Sāmved: Mantr 115

38. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

39. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

40. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

41. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

42.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

43. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

44. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

45. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

46. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

48. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

50. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

One should never wish to die: Ved hates death

DSM Satyarthi

Yajurved: Chapter 40: Mantr 2 states:

Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.’

‘Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee but this
so action cleaveth not the man.’

Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/2.

lt’s clear that it contains the Mantraansh under discussion.

Jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah
‘One should wish to live hundreds of years.’
Ved is the Code of LIFE.
IT HATES DEATH.
It does not allow any SUICIDAL TENDENCIES, as some of the cultures do not only allow, rather preach death, under this or that pretext, like NIRVAAN‘ or else.

Ved is the SONG OF LIFE.
Somewhere else, it orders his followers:

Ut devaa avhitam devaa unnyathaa punah,
Utaagashchakrusham devaa devaa jeevyathaa punah.’

‘Divine ones! Divine ones!
raise up the downtrodden.
And, Divine ones! Divine ones! Make him to live again, who hath done evil.’

–Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 4/13/1

Utaagashchakrusham devaa devaa jeevyathaa punah.’
‘And, Divine ones! Divine ones!

Make him to live again, who hath done evil.’

–Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 4/13/1


tells us that a person dies because of his/her evil doings.

It’s a very important revelation.

It’s telling us why do we die.

It means, if we can avoid the basic root of the death, we can even LIVE FOREVER.

There is another Mantr also that confirms this very conclusion:
Vidyaam chaavidyaanch yastadvedobhayagvong sah,
Avidyayaa mr’tyum teertvaa vidyayaamr’tamashnute.’

‘Science and nescience, who knows the both simultaneously; by nescience crossing the death, by science, he obtains the eternity.’

–Ved: 2 Yajurved|40|14

Avidyayaa mr’tyum teertvaa vidyayaamr’tamashnute.’
‘By nescience crossing the death, by science, he obtains the eternity.’

It thus tells us how to cross death:

Avidyayaa mr’tyum teertvaa

‘By nescience crossing the death

Thus, it also defines the ‘AAGAH’ ‘EVIL’.
It’s nothing else, except NESCIENCE.
So, Ved tells us, not to resort to NESCIENCE so that we can live long, and ultimately can WIN OVER DEATH too.

We can’t do it, if we don’t work at all:

‘Kurvanneveh karmaani’
‘Only Doing works here.’

So, the key point to win the death and to live for ever, is WORK EVER:

‘Kurvanneveh karmaan’i’

Lord Kr’shn’ confirms it:

Karman’yevaadhikaaraste maa phaleshu kadaachan

maa karmphlheturbhoormaa te sango’stvakarmani.

‘Your right is in WORK ONLY, NEVER IN RESULTS. Don’t be KARMPHALHETU. Don’t be obsessed in worklessness.’

Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 2/47

Never surrender to laziness.

Nature does not help the lazy ones to live and enjoy life even.

Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.

‘Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee but this
so action cleaveth not the man.’

Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/2.

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

 

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 12| Mantr 2

18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

37. Saamved: Mantr 1

38. Sāmved: Mantr 115

39. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

40. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

41. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

42. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

43.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

44. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

45. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

46. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

49. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

51. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

Zindagi, aa raha hoon main:

An interesting audio musical blog: Just listen to, and enjoy

DSM Satyarthi

Click the links to some popular songs, in an interesting specific sequence. Enjoy the songs as if an audio story, implying an altogether different sense:

1. Hera Pheriyan

2. Agar tum na hote

3. Yeh hai reshami zulfon ka andhera

4. Ye sham mastani

5. Aaj jane ki zid na karo

5. Kuchh dil ne kaha

6. Zindagi, aa raha hoon main

7. Zara si aahat hoti hai

7. Jo tum hansoge to duniya hnsegi

8. Nainon mein badra chhaye

9. Pyar diwana hota hai

10. Jaiye aap kahan jayenge

11. Mere mahboob qayaamat hogi-1

12. Yahi voh jagah hai

13. Mere mhboob qayqmat hogi-2

14. Waadiyan mera daman

15. Sa re ga ma pa

16. Allah kare dil na lage kisi se

17. Dil se dil milne ka koi kaaran hoga

19. Saara pyar tumhara

20. Mera pyar voh hai ki

21. Apni to jaise taise

22. Bekas pe karam kijiye

23. Kaahe apnon ke kaam nahin aaye

24. Kaahe apnon ke kaam nahin aaye

25. Pag ghunghroo baandh

26. Meharbaan mahboob  dilbar jaane man!

27. Rimjhim gire sawan

27. Rimjhim gire sawan

28.Balma khuli hawa mein

29. Jawani O diwani

30. Mera sanam sabse pyara hai

31. Chanda O Chanda!

32. Chanda O Chanda!

33. Tere pyar mein dildar

34. Meethi meethi ankhiyon se

35. Allah bachaye nujawanon se

36. Desh chhudaye bhesh chhudaye

37. Dillagi ne di hawa

38. Jaane man! ik nazar dekh le

39. Kya nazaare kya sitaare

40. Chali re chali re gori paniya bharan ko

41. Tu shayar hai

42. Main tujhse pyar karoon main shaairee na karoon

43. Shayad meri shadi ka khayal

44. Manmohna bade jhoothe

45. Dream girl

46. Yeh saman saman hai yeh pyar ka

47. Main pyasa tum savan

48. Main pyasi tum savan

49. Main pyasa tum savan

50. Mere sang ga

51. Hum log hain aese diwane duniya ko jhukakar manenge

52. Dhoondhoge agar

53. Are rafta rafta dekho aankh meri ladi hai

54. Chhedo na meri zulfen

55. Khai ke pan banaras wala

56. Hamen raston ki zaroorat nahin hai

57. Hamare sang sang chalen Ganga ki lahren

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More interesting audio musical blogs from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Zindagi, aa raha hoon main

2. Zindagi ik safar hi suhana

3. Jo tum hansoge

4. Har Chehrā yahān chānd to har zarrā sitarā

5. Main jahan chala jaaoon, bahaar chali aaye

Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?: DSM Satyarthi

I never compromised with the persons, who believe that the present radical, communal and terrorist Islam, is the TRUE ISLAM.
Wafa Sultan does not believe it.

She believes that the PRESENT radical, communal and terrorist Islam, is the TRUE ISLAM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafa_Sultan#Reli…
I, every now and then, have to face some bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies, married and unmarried both, who worship the ground, Wafa Sultan walks on.
http://www.copts-united.com/Copts_United_N/TV…

My present active associate, Khadeejah Muhammad, is also one of such bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies.

I haven’t met any Muslim male, till now, who follow Wafa Sultan:
http://www.ncpa.info/news/view_newsdetails.as…
Yet, the large number of the bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies, married and unmarried both, who worship the ground, Wafa Sultan walks on; is too much to be neglected.
They are MORE WAFA SULTAN THAN EVEN WAFA SULTAN is.
My present active associate, Khadeejah Muhammad, is not the leader of such bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies.
But, she REPRESENTS THEM brilliantly.

I remember, in one of her posts, Khadeejah Muhammad, had asked me what the TRUE ISLAM is.
I refer her, and the persons who want my answer to the question, to a link:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TS7…
Here, they can find my thread:
‘Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi’
I think, it’s the TRUE ISLAM.
It’s right there, in Al Qur’an Al Kareem and Ahaith e Muqaddasaat.

However, as I have repeatedly said in my 8138 posts till now, Islam has gone through a counter revolution at Karbala:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbala
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbal…

The Sunnis and the Shiaas differ very much in the matter, even somewhat altogether:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbal…
Yet, it’s not the question under discussion here.
The question under discussion here, is WHY DID IT HAPPEN?
In my opinion, it happened, because unfortunately, Huzoor(SAW) did not live to complete his GREAT HISTORIC ISLAMIC REVOLUTION.
Khulfae Raashideen(RA) tried their best to complete it, yet we can’t deny that they lacked the authority and ingenuity, both; Huzoor(SAW) enjoyed in his(S) lifetime.

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

Ved: Ved Bhāshý

4 Atharv Ved

 Kānd 14 Vivāh Kānd:

 Sūkt 1| Mantr 2

DSM Satyarthi

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1By Som  Ādityās strong2 by Som Earth great3

No doubt4, in the genital organ of these constellations5, Som is established optimum6.

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1.R’shikā: Sūryā Sāvitrī

Dévtā/ Divine Subject: Som

Chhand/Meter: Anushŧup

2. Ved is revealed in a telegraphic language, not in any ordinary language.

This basic fact, about Ved, always must be remembered while studying Ved gravely.

I’m sorry to say that the Westerners never studied Ved gravely.

I’m sorrier to say that the Westerners were never serious not only about Ved.

They were never equally serious about Bible and Qur’an too, as well.

These scriptures were never seriously studied by the Westerners.

If they were ever studied seriously, by the Westerners; the Western Culture, now on the path of its certain suicide, would never were on its suicidal path.

It was an unfortunate tragedy that when Ved, Bible and Qur’an were being studied by the Westerners, the Communism was fighting its own war of survival with religion.

It made the Communist thinkers more biased those days than they are not biased even today.

No biased studies should be taken seriously ever.

Yet, isn’t it a tragedy that, the entirely biased studies of those days, by the Communist thinkers are still being taken seriously?

Isn’t it a time to re-study Ved, Bible, Qur’an and the related literature more seriously, scientifically and absolutely unbiased, for a change?

We have one more benefit the Communist thinkers of those days didn’t have.

The Communism in those days was utopian somewhat, even after the great scientific studies Karl Marx and Frederick Engels did then.

It was not a scientific fact, known those days that, the Multiverse is made of vibrations of energy basically.

This fact, revealed and accepted scientifically afterwards, has changed the entire scenario of scientific studies about the matters the Communist thinkers had done their studies.

Marriage institution is also one of them.

The persons who have studied Western Culture seriously know very well that the Western Culture does not stand on scientific grounds only.

In fact, no culture can ever stand on scientific grounds only howsoever it insists to stand.

Any theory, any fact, when it is brought into practice always succumbs to human emotions prevailing those days.

It has to.

It hasn’t another option if it has to come into practice.

Humans never react scientifically only.

Neither can they ever do it.

Scientific facts are never emotional until they are facts only.

As soon as they are brought into practice they have to deal with the humans.

Humans include both males and females.

Not only females are emotional ones, the males are also not very different in the matter.

No doubt, the females are more emotionals than the males.

Nevertheless, even the males are not devoid of emotions absolutely.

Hence, any scientific fact, however factually it is known to us, when brought into practice, is bound to succumb to the emotional needs of the humans those are bringing it into practice.

That’s why the theory and practice always differ howsoever honest its implementers are.

That’s why even Eīshān Param Brahm Paramātmā has instructed us not to confine ourselves to the principles only i.e. Ved, but  to the very Mission of Life/ExistenceKr’ñvanto VishvamāryamDharm Santānam, Dharm Sansthāpan, as well; to bring the principles into practice and study Divý Itihās, the Divine History for it:

  1. Dhiyo yo nah prachodayāt
  2. Yāthātathyatah

This fact, once realized in its full form, can immensely help us to re-study about marriage institution once opposed by the Communist thinkers so insistently, so persistently.

The Communist thinkers of those days found marriage institution an immensely avoidable obstacle in their pathway to Communism.

They thought marriage institutions give birth to Private Property.

The Communist thinkers were right.

But they were not right in thinking that the family was the only institution that caused the accumulation of Private Property.

Today, we can easily observe around us that even the singles have Private Property.

Moreover, to be more exactly honest and sincere, the entire history of humankind has proven now that the singles crave for Private Property even more than the married persons do.

Why is it so?

Because the married persons have their family to take care of them in their old age, while the singles don’t.

They have only their money to take care of them in their old age.

It is the reason why the singles are found more corrupt than the married persons in accumulating Private Property and wealth.

That’s why Hinduism does not support single life, except only when a single can’t afford even a single wife.

It specifically orders:

S’ nah pitév sūnavé’gné sūpāyano bhav,

Sachasvā nah svastayé.’

‘He, be unto us, as a father to son, Agni, easy to access.

Be together optimum, properly, for our welfare.’

—      Ved: R’gved: 1| 1| 9

 Ihaiv stam mā vi yaushŧam vishvamāyurvyashnutam,

Krīdantau putrairnaptr’bhirmodmānau své gr’hé.’

‘Abide ye both only here. Don’t be separated. Enjoy whole life sporting with sons grandsons, rejoicing in own home.’

—      Ved: R’gved: 10| 85| 42

Ihaiv stam mā vi yaushŧam vishvamāyurvyashnutam,

Krīdantau putrairnaptr’bhirmodmānau svastakau.’

‘Abide ye both only here. Don’t be separated. Enjoy whole life sporting with sons grandsons4, rejoicing in the lovely home.’

—      Ved: Atharv Ved: 14|1|22

The Communist thinkers never thought, neither they could, in those days of too limited resources to research anything that, marriage institution was not the only vice in their pathway to Communism.

In fact, the singles are more severe problems in their way.

The Communist thinkers wildly opposed marriage institution and family.

In fact they are still opposing it blindly, not even realizing the fact that the entire history of humankind has already proven them wrong now.

The Communism as a movement has lost its original momentum now.

It is not because it’s nonsense, as it’s claimed by its blind communal opponents.

The Communism as a movement is not nonsense.

It is necessary for the uplifting of the downtroddens.

Even Hinduism has the same goal as The Communism as a movement has.

The point where Hinduism differs with the Communism as a movement is not its goal, its means of implementation instead.

So, the Communism as a movement doesn’t need to oppose either marriage institution or family ever to achieve its mission.

Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, in fact no religion, basically, is in opposition to the Communism as a movement, at all.

The Communism as a movement believed that the mission could be achieved through the dictatorship of the laborers.

The subsequent history of humankind has now expressly proven that such a belief of the then Communists was wrong.

Why?

Because, as already said, the Communism was then only a theory.

It was never practiced by its propellers.

Every theory when it is brought into practice, always refines itself.

No theorist can ever anticipate, absolutely and flawlessly, what lies in its pathway in future.

After all, every theorist, whatsoever theory he/she propels, is a human being, and bound to remain a human being.

A human being is not an omniscient, neither he/she ever can be.

So, howsoever the theory he/she proposes is flawless when propelled, it’s bound to prove in future that it wasn’t so.

The laborers never knew how the enterprises are built up and run.

If they had known how to build up enterprises and how to run them, they would have already done it without any help of the Communist thinkers.

Why have they waited for the moment the Communist thinkers declare them the dictators of a country?

To build up any enterprise first of all an enterpriser has to dream of it to the extent that it becomes an obsession to him/her.

Until and unless it isn’t an obsession to him even an enterpriser can’t build up any enterprise let alone any laborer or a group of laborers.

An enterpriser builds up his/her enterprise first in his/her own mind with its each and every minutest details.

He is so obsessed with these minutest details that, he sees it in his mind.

This imaginary vision in his/her mind always exists in his/her mind while he/she attempts to bring it into fact.

Until and unless this obsession does not become his/her madness, he/she can’t bring into existence.

It’s also a labor, the original Communist thinkers never realized.

That’s why when they took hold of the excellently running enterprises and put them under the dictatorship of the laborers, even the excellently running enterprises failed to continue.

The dictators lacked this vision, this obsession, and this madness.

It was the oxygen an enterpriser supplies to the enterprises.

Unfortunately only he/she can do it, none else.

The Communist thinkers never realized it.

The Communist thinkers made the laborers dictators on the shrewd persons who knew very well how to win the obstacles in their pathways.

They bribed the laborers in administration heavily.

The laborers in administration had never seen money.

They surrendered to the bribery of shrewdest businesspersons.

The movement started suffering heavily.

And ultimately it flopped.

It had to.

The laborers in administration were most of the persons who were everlosers.*

Watch your present day politicians.

Who are they?

Isn’t it a fact that most of them are the persons who are highly Uneducated/Under educated?

Isn’t it a fact that so many of them are criminal/criminal minded?

Why is it so?

Because most of the laborers in administration were dictators, but the persons they dictated were shrewder and more efficient.

The businesspersons became kingmakers instead of kings.

Apparently the businesspersons were not administrators, the chosen representatives of the people were.

But the businesspersons were kingmakers and shrewder.

The dictatorship of the Uneducated/Under educated ones, on shrewder persons, made itself ineffective.

Administration requires prudence.

The laborers in administration hadn’t developed it.

The system, consequently, failed.

It had to.*

Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: Kānd 14| Vivāh Kānd: Sookt 1| Mantr 3

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 2

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

16. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

22. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

29. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

39. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

40. Saamved: Mantr 1

41. Sāmved: Mantr 115

42. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

43. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

44. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

46.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

51. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

54. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

55. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

56. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

57. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

58. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 4

59.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

60.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Ved Bhāshý:

4 Atharv Ved:

Kānd: 14: Sookt: 1: Mantr:59

DSM Satyarthi

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Udyachchhadhvamap raxo hanāthémām nārīm sukr’té dadhāt.

Dhātā vipashchit patimasyai vivéd bhago rājā pur étu prajānan.

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1Stand up2/Raise ye3. Smite away the demons4. Set this woman for well doer5. Inspired holder/guardian6 must know especially7 the husband for her8. The well knowing politician9 come first/ahead10 for her genital organ11.

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1.R’shikā: Sūryā Sāvitrī

Dévtā/ Divine Subject: Ātmā, Soul

Chhand/Meter: Trishŧup

7. that her husband must be a Sukr’t, a well doer, and well doer only.

He must ensure absolutely, beyond doubt, that he is not a wicked.

It should never be taken lightly.

He must know and guarantee it especially, ‘Vivéd’.

After all he is a dhātā and he must be Vipashchit.

If he is a dhātā and he is not a Vipashchit, he must take the help of other Vipashchits.

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 2

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

16. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

22. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

29. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

39. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

40. Saamved: Mantr 1

41. Sāmved: Mantr 115

42. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

43. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

44. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

46.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

51. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

54. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

55. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

56. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

57. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

58. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 4

59.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

60.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Ved: Ved Bhāshý

4 Atharv Ved

 Kānd 14 Vivāh Kānd:

 Sūkt 1| Mantr 1

DSM Satyarthi

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Satyénottabhitā bhūmih sūryéñottabhitā dyauh,

R’ténādityāstishŧhanti divi somo adhi shritah.

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 1By truth, the Earth is balanced2. By Sun, the celestial system is balanced optimum3. By Eternal Truth Ādiyās stand4. In the celestial system, Som is set rightfully5.

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 1.R’shikā: Sūryā Sāvitrī

Dévtā/ Divine Subject: Ātmā, Soul

Chhand/Meter: Trishŧup

2. ‘Satyénottabhitā bhūmih’.

Uttabhitā’ is feminine gender of ‘Ut-stabh’.

According to Āchārý Sāyañ, as every Western scholar of Ved claims to follow Āchārý Sāyañ, whether he really does follow Āchārý Sāyañ or not, W. D. Whitney has also suggested the same, in his famous translation of Atharv Ved.

It does not mean, however, that this Commentary of Ved accepts the authority of W. D. Whitney, Ralph Thomas Hotchkin Griffith or Āchārý Sāyañ.

Never.

This Commentary of Ved accepts the authority of Ved, Shākhā Granths, Brāhmañ Granths, Ārañyaks, Upanishads, Nighanŧu, Nirukt and Vedic Sanskr’t Grammar only.

It can always be proved profoundly that the translations of W. D. Whitney, Āchārý Sāyañ, and other Western scholars, of Ved, do materially differ from Ved, Shākhā Granths, Brāhmañ Granths, Ārañyaks, Upanishads, Nighanŧu, Nirukt and Vedic Sanskr’t Grammar.

The translations of W. D. Whitney, Āchārý Sāyañ, and other Western scholars, of Ved, are either contradictory to Ved, Shākhā Granths, Brāhmañ Granths, Ārañyaks, Upanishads, Nighanŧu, Nirukt and Vedic Sanskr’t Grammar, or immensely poor translations of Ved, even if they follow Ved, Shākhā Granths, Brāhmañ Granths, Ārañyaks, Upanishads, Nighanŧu, Nirukt and Vedic Sanskr’t Grammar, anywhere.

The Western scholars of Ved and their so-called Indian advocates claim the Western translations of Ved depict the true form of Ved as it was being practiced by Hindus initially.

Of course, their such claims are profoundly wrong and self contradictory.

The Commentary of Ved by Āchārý Sāyañ cannot be written before Āchārý Sāyañ, himself.

It is obvious from the request of King of Vijay Nagar Empire, to Āchārý Mādhav, that no Commentary of Ved was found those days, that explained the logic of Ved as it was used in Yāgnik rituals.

Āchārý Mādhav, the elder brother of Āchārý Sāyañ, refused immediately to grant the request of King of Vijay Nagar Empire, declaring it an unnecessary effort and not beneficial to Hindus too.

The King of Vijay Nagar Empire could not understand it.

He was only a king, not a scholar of Ved or Vedic Sanskr’t.

He requested to Āchārý Sāyañ, the younger brother of Āchārý Mādhav, to do the task seeking the guidance of his elder brother, Āchārý Mādhav, whenever, whatsoever and wherever it was available to him, as he was his real younger brother.

Satyénottabhitā bhūmih’ ‘By truth, the Earth is balanced’ means that even in marriage, never deviate from truth as it is told in Ved.

There are so many persons, especially in these days of rotten Western Culture, who ridicule the persons following truth in marriage activities.

They imply that it isn’t necessary anywhere to practice truth if it is not beneficial to the practitioners.

Even if it is beneficial to them in the long run, the Westerners and their Eastern followers profoundly and shamelessly disapprove of following it.

They treat such persons backward and either ridicule them or at least treat them sympathetically, as if they are doing any sin following the truth.

Ved rejects this dangerous policy ab initio.

It starts its Vivāh Kānd, its Book of Marriage, by reminding its followers the importance of truth in the System it proposes.

We know very well that it’s always immensely troublesome to the non followers of Ved to follow the truth in any matter.

If they could do it, why they would have not followed Ved itself?

Does Ved propose anything untrue anywhere in any Mantr of it?

Never.

Yet, either they openly refuse to follow Ved or tactfully at least.

They refuse to follow Ved, not because Ved is untrue.

They refuse to follow Ved, because Ved follows nothing but truth and truth only.

They can’t afford truth.

Their system of life is profoundly full of untruths.

Every system of life wherever it differs/deviates from Ved, is untrue there, either knowingly or unknowingly.

Whatever maybe the case, ultimately in both the cases, it’s always dangerous to follow it.

Sooner or later, the truth is always disclosed.

It can’t be hidden forever.

It is one of the fundamentals of Our System, running through infinite creations, that anything true, cannot be hidden forever.

It is bound to be exposed sooner or later.

Marriage is a serious affair.

It should never be based on anything untrue whatsoever.

There are so many persons, who don’t follow Ved, that suggest either this way or that way, not to be true in marriage activities, if something is harmful.

They suggest to hide that thing.

Ved does never approve of such suicidal action.

After marriage when it would be disclosed it may break the marriage even causing your daughter immensely troublesome circumstances.

The circumstances maybe suicidal even.

Consequently, never listen to the persons who suggest such impractical policies.

It’s not the matter of life and death for their own daughter.

But it is the matter of life and death for your own daughter

Can you ever even think of  risking your daughter’s life/happiness?

If yes, why are you marrying your daughter/sister at all?

Only to get rid of her?

Never act on the suggestion(s) of your wife/wives in this matter.

If she is the mother of your daughter/sister, that’s what she does want in her blind love for her daughter.

A mother is always blind in her love for her children.

That’s how a mother is made by Us.

The children need it very much for their own very existence.

But it does not mean you must also be as blind in love as the mother is.

It does not make any difference whatsoever whether you are the father or brother of the potential bride.

Nevertheless, you have altogether different responsibilities from that of a mother.

You can’t afford to be as blind in love, as the mother is, and if not, she can be.

She is made for the purpose.

Are you also made for the same purpose?

The persons, who answer this question in the affirmative, are excused to do whatever they want to do.

Ved does not perceive them as men.

Even if they want to be perceived as men, Ved refuses bluntly to oblige them.

Vedic System of life expressly differentiates between a man and a woman.

It is never afraid of any nescience, any Avidyā, whatsoever it maybe.

It maybe Western Culture, it maybe the so called Islam that is Pseudo Islam actually, invented by Yazīd malåūn, Årab Burdāfaroshs and the then Mullahs and Maulavīs who served  Yazīd malåūn, and Årab Burdāfaroshs in developing Pseudo Islam.

It maybe atheism even.

Whatsoever the nescience maybe, Hinduism/Ved is never afraid of it.

It has already announced valiantly:

Vidyām chāvidyām ch’ yastdvédobhayagvong sah, avidyayā mr’tyum tīrtvā vidyayāmr’tamashnuté.’

Science and nescience who knows both simultaneously, by nescience crossing death, by science attains Eternity.’

Ved: 2 Yajurvéd: 40| 14

Ved differentiates between man and woman.

Of course, it does not differentiate in their fundamental human rights.

It differentiates in their physical differences, none can deny ever.

Owing to their physical differences therefore, Hinduism/Ved proposes them two different fields of actions.

Never imitate irrationally the non Hindus foolishly.

They are a dying culture now, dying fastest.

Hinduism/Ved is the culture now replacing their dying culture fastest whether they like it or not.

In not very far future, you have to lead the entire humankind once more forever, if you follow Us unconditional.

It is not the everfirst you have to do it.

Our followers have always done it physically, even if they widely differed in their names.

3. ‘Sūryéñottabhitā dyauh.’

After reminding the importance of truth, now Ved is reminding the specific nature of the movement of Hinduism/Ved.

It is not like other remaining movements.

It is based on Sukr’ts.

Its Mission of life/existence is to establish a society of Sukr’ts, noble doers.

Even for marriage, it can never compromise with its Mission of life/existence Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam/ Dharmsantānam/Dharmsansthāpan.

Consequently, it immediately advances to tell that, basically, it’s a polygamist movement.

Of course, polygamy is not an indispensable necessity here, but it cannot be ruled out entirely too.

As far as the law of the land is concerned, polygamy is legally prohibited in most of the modern countries today.

In these modern countries, of course, every member of this movement, even, has to follow the law of the land.

Even if he is a sun in vigor, and the celestial system is balanced by the sun, optimum, he would never break the law of the land.

Till it is the law, he would, of course, respect and follow it.

But it does never mean that he would not put his utmost legal prudence and efforts to change the law of the land to suit the nature of his Mission of life/existence Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam/ Dharmsantānam/Dharmsansthāpan, using every legal step and means.

He is of course a citizen of the country and as such, he has, both, to respect and follow the law of the land, till it is the law of the land.

His duties towards his country do not necessitate him to forget his greater duties towards entire humanity.

His potential bride and her relatives must understand this fact expressly, entirely and specifically.

If he is not capable to practice polygamy physically, legally or financially, it does not mean that he would not put his extreme efforts even to be capable for it physically, legally or financially, whatsoever the case maybe.

4. ‘R’ténādityāstishŧhanti.’

You can run away neither from the Eternal Facts, described in Ved extensively, nor from the local truth and the truths as they are found and believed in your own time.

Practically, that’s the maximum, you can do.

Of course, so many persons among you still ridicule any grave interpretations of Ved.

But they ridicule actually whatsoever religious guidance you follow.

They are not against Ved, actually.

Actually, they are against everything religious.

They are actually confused persons.

They ridicule the persons following Ved, as if they know very well it’s profound foolishness.

But if you try to discuss with them what they themselves have to offer to replace Ved, if they really find to follow Ved is, Shanno Mitrah sham varuñah shanno bhavatvaryamā, ridiculous.

They have nothing to offer to replace Ved, yet they still ridicule to follow Ved.

Why?

They themselves don’t know.

They, Shanno Mitrah sham varuñah shanno bhavatvaryamā, ridicule Ved and its followers, but they don’t know its alternative.

Yet, they think they are more prudent than the persons following Ved.

They most certainly are not.

They think they are more prudent but if you really invite them to discuss their own ideology, you may be surprised to find that they don’t have any ideology at all.

It is the real fact.

The persons who don’t have any ideology at all, ridicule the persons who have a perfectly rational and scientific ideology they can discuss thoroughly, extensively and without any hesitation and irritation at all.

So many Hindus think it’s communal to think of oneself as a Hindu.

But they don’t think it’s communal if a Musalmān thinks himself as a Musalmān, a Christian thinks himself as a Christian, a Jew thinks himself as a Jew, a Persian thinks himself as a Persian and an atheist thinks himself as an atheist.

He does not realize it’s double standard, actually, he/she is practicing about Hindus.

He/she goes on to practice it without never realizing even what he/she is practicing is entirely unjust, irrational and inhumane even.

It was started by anti Hindus, and even the so called Hindus are practicing it now, without any realization whatsoever what they are doing.

They ridicule Hindus while actually they are themselves the persons who should be ridiculed for their profound stupidity.

If you don’t want to be recognized as a Hindu, no one is compelling you to do so.

You just go ahead and declare so.

But you can’t do even that.

Because you are actually a timid and coward person.

You are afraid of knowing what you are actually.

You don’t want to acknowledge the fact that you are actually yourself ridiculous, timid and coward.

Hindus are most certainly Not.

How is a person ridiculous if he/she has and practices a rational, scientific and mathematical ideology?

And how are you even to be respected if you neither have nor practice any such thing?

Aren’t you yourself a person who deserve to be ridiculed instead ridiculing Hindus?

If you don’t want to be addressed as a Hindu, be brave and declare so.

If you want to remain only an Indian, an atheist or whatsoever you think yourself, it is not a problem for the Hindus.

You can do whatsoever you damn please.

But you can’t be allowed to deceive and to cheat the others.

It’s not only an immoral act; it’s a crime as well.

If you are not even aware of it, think how prudent you are yourself, ridiculing Hindus.

Do you really want to continue it?

You like it or not, until and unless you don’t declare you are not a Hindu, you are legally a Hindu, and you’d be recognized as a Hindu for all practical and legal purposes.

As far as the social, legal and practical purposes are, the Hindus are concerned with you if you don’t declare that you are not a Hindu.

The question is why should the Hindus allow you to deceive, to cheat them, that you are a Hindu, if you are actually not a Hindu?

It is dangerous to them.

If there be a communal riot, and you can’t guarantee that there would never be one, the Hindus would believe that you are one of them while you are certainly not.

As such, you are not bound to defend Hindus against their communal enemies whosoever they may be.

While the Hindus would defend you and your interests.

Why should you be allowed this privilege by the persons you ridicule so shamelessly?

Why shouldn’t you be thrown to the wolves in the same way you throw the Hindus whenever you ridicule them?

Why should the Hindus allow you to have the benefits of being a Hindu when it’s beneficial to you, and the benefits of being an anti Hindu whenever it is beneficial to you?

Why Hindus should suffer in both the cases?

Why should you be allowed to get benefits in both the cases?

If you are not a Hindu, you would never be allowed to get its benefits.

And if you are a Hindu, you can’t be allowed to ridicule the other Hindus in your profound stupidity.

If you are a secular Hindu and hate the other Hindus because they are not secular in your profound stupid eyes, you are invited respectfully to discuss your points and to prove you are right.

You can do it.

But if instead of discussing your points if you stupidly ridicule the actually secular, rational, scientific and mathematical Hindus you’d be ridiculed too.

If instead of behaving as a prudent person, you choose to behave irresponsibly, why should a responsible person follow you?

Why shouldn’t he/she ridicule you in the same way and bring your profound stupidity in front of the other reasonable responsible persons?

5. ‘Divi somo adhi shritah’.

You have to allow polygamy as a potential possibility at least if you really follow the system We propose.

Again, you can’t be allowed to have and eat your cake simultaneously.

If you live in a country that does not allow polygamy legally for your religious group, while it does allow the same for another religious group living in the same country, you must fight against such a shameless double standard in legal practice even.

If you think, polygamy is itself not correct you must revolt against the society that is allowed legally to practice it too.

However, you must never fight against the society itself enjoying such privileged legal rights.

The shameless corrupt politicians do such legal discriminations to keep different societies in their country  fighting with each other and rule them.

They practically believe in the dangerous policy of ‘Divide and rule’, even if they don’t admit it in so many words.

Such imprudent policies are not only dangerous to the societies that are not in the position to avail of such discriminatory legal rights; these are far more dangerous to the societies that are allowed to enjoy such legal rights.

The societies having less rights, always hate the societies having more rights, whether one likes it or not.

In India, it has resulted in profound hatred against Musalmīn.

Hindus inadvertently hate Musalmīn even if they are not aware of any such hatred they are nourishing against Musalmīn in their heart unknowingly.

The unscrupulous politicians understand it and deliberately nurse it so that they keep divided both the societies and rule them.

Musalmān women find other women have not to bear other women in their marital status as their co wives as they have to.

They become jealous of such women enjoying exclusive marital bliss.

And in their jealousy they go to the extent to attract their Hindu husband.

It happens more if the Musalmān husband, practicing polygamy, doesn’t do justice among his Musalmān wives.

The Musalmān wives, who don’t get justice from their Musalmān husband, find a Hindu lover for themselves both to punish their Musalmān husband and keep themselves happy.

In India, it’s more drastic as most of the Musalmīn here are either uneducated or under educated.

Why a Musalmān woman, if she were intelligent, prudent and smart, would opt for an uneducated/under educated  Musalmān husband while an equally intelligent, prudent and smart, highly educated Hindu husband/lover is available to her without any extra effort?

It brings hatred among loser Musalmīn against gaining Hindus.

The shrewd politicians again get benefits of ‘Divide and rule‘ policy, practically, even if they never accept it in so many words.

 Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 2

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

16. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

22. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

29. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

39. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

40. Saamved: Mantr 1

41. Sāmved: Mantr 115

42. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

43. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

44. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

46.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

51. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

54. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

55. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

56. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

57. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

58. Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 4

59.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

60.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Ved: R’gved:

 Mandal 1|Sookt1|Mantr 3

Ashŧak 1| Adhyāý 1| Anuvāk 1| Varg 1

DSM Satyarthi

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Agninā rayimashnavat poshamév divé dive,

yashasam vīrvattamam.

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1Through Agni, one obtains the affluence2; actually shield3, day by day4, fame5, the most valiant6.

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1.R’shi: Madhuchchhandā Mahimvat Vaishvāmitr

Dévtā: Agni, one that leads to light

Chhand/Vedic Meter: Gāyatrī

Svar: Shadj.

2. He/she does not lose it.

The wicked ones have advertised and laboriously spread this thoroughly erroneous idea among the noble persons that the noble persons never obtain affluence, so that they would be afraid of being nobler and nobler more and more.

There are some persons, even among the persons who are called Hindus irrespective of whether they like it or not, who laugh at any serious attempt to explain Ved, and the human problems from Vedic point of view.

They think they know more than the persons who believe in Ved.

They argue why Hindus are so poor with respect to the Westerners if the noble ones obtain the affluence.

Their question can be answered gravely if they were really after the answer of their questions.

But unfortunately they are not after it.

They think themselves wiser and ask these questions only to ridicule the persons believing in Ved.

First, let it be clear that Ved is not revealed for Hindus.

It is revealed for the entire people, irrespective of their being Hindus, Musalmīn, Christians, Jews, atheists etc:

Yathemām vācham kalyāñīmāvadāni janebhyah,
Brahmrājayābhyāgvong shoodrāý chāryāý ch’ svāý chārnāý.’

‘Optimum, I deliver this welfare speech, for ALL THE PEOPLE: the intelligent ones, the politicians, the workers, the businesspersons, the self praising ones.’

Ved: 2 Yajurvéd: 26|2

Ved does not classify human beings in Hindus and non Hindus.

It even refuses to use the term Hindu anywhere at all.

It classifies the entire human beings however in two classes of Sukr’ts, the noble ones; and dushkr’ts, the wicked ones.

This classification is qualitative, not communal.

Ved does not say that if someone follows it, he/she would get affluence through some magic.

No, never.

Ved even refuses to acknowledge the existence of magic anywhere.

Ved declares clearly:

Through Agni, one obtains the affluence.’

Agninā rayimashnavat.’

One may ask why the discussion about affluence, ‘rayim’, right from its beginning, even in its third Mantr, so earliest?

It is because that is what even the non-believers in Ved also want.

We want to assure Our followers that they have not to lose even what the non-believers in Ved are after.

The Westerners are not rich through their fair means.

Moreover, they are losing now even that, fast.

The difference in getting affluence through both the ways is quite clear now.

Through Agni’ ‘Agninā’ the affluence you get can’t leave you ever if you keep following Us.

While through the means the Westerners got affluence, you can yourselves see it is leaving them.

Hinduism/Ved divides the affluence in two parts.

The first is ‘Mahādhan’.

The second one is ‘Arbh’.

Indram Wayam Mahādhan indramarbhé havāmahé.’

‘We call Indr to the great wealth we call Indr to the smaller one’.

Ved: 1R’gved: 1|7|5, 3 Sāmvéd Mantr 130, 4 Atharv Ved Kānd 20| Sūkt 70| Mantr 11, Taittirīý Brāhmañ 2|7|13|1.

It is clear from this very third Mantr of Ved that Indr cannot get affluence himself even according to Our System.

Even while he is a controller of his organs, Indr, muttaqī, in Our System, he can’t get affluence, ‘rayim’, independently.

Even he has to get it through Agni, ‘Agninā rayimashnavat.

One can easily see that even being an Indr, muttaqī, in Our System, is an inferior stage than being Agni, a person vowed to spread light everywhere, aqāmat-e-dīn/Dharmsantānam/Dharmsansthāpan .

After all, what is the use of being an Indr, muttaqī, in Our System, if the person is not using it in spreading Our light everywhere, aqāmat-e-dīn/Dharmsantānam/Dharmsansthāpan .

Controlling one’s organs, being an Indr, muttaqī, in Our System, is not the goal of life in itself, neither it can be for any intelligent person.

It is only a means to attain the Mission of life/existence, Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam/aqāmat-e-dīn/Dharmsantānam/Dharmsansthāpan .

3. ‘Poshamév’.

This affluence, ‘rayim’ that you get through Agni,Agninā rayimashnavat’, is actually not only affluence, ‘rayim’.

It is a shield actually that protects and strengthen you.

One may question that if it is so, why some of the followers of Us, could not get protected even while they are true to their conviction to Trishapt/Sapt Maryādās too.

This question is actually not based on true status of the facts.

Hinduism/Vedic Movement is based on two Mantrs, basically.

  1. Dhiyo yo nah prachodayāt’.
  2. Yāthātathyatah’.

Can you guarantee that your question is based on these two Mantrs?

Are all the persons concerned really Indr and Agni?

Do all of them are really dedicated to Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam/Dharmsantānam/Dharmsansthāpan?

If so, you’d never find that such is the case.

True Hinduism according to Ved is not now in the life of Indian Hindus.

What they are following is only a rotten shadow of True Hinduism according to Ved.

Yet, you can easily see India is still a Soné kī Chiđiyā, a Golden Bird.

The anti Hindus are pillaging India for more than thousand years now.

Yet you can see the affluence here is as if infinite.

The more the anti Hindus loot India, the more We are unleashing for Our present followers if they really follow Us.

Even the dacoits and thieves are defeated as if they are Duhshāsan and the affluence, ‘rayim’, for Our followers is the cloth of Draupadī, even they can’t pull off absolutely.

What more practical proof/evidence you need for the truth of this very third Vedmantr?

4. ‘divé dive’.

Isn’t what is said in the previous footnote is

even more than enough to prove it too?

5. ‘Yashasam’.

Through Agni, ‘Agninā’, one does not have affluence only.

Through Agni, ‘Agninā’, one does not have it day by day, ‘divé dive’ only.

Through Agni, ‘Agninā’, one gets fame, ‘Yashasam’ too.

Don’t think that the fame is not useful to you in any way, and you damn care even if you get it ever or not.

Of course, you should never care for it, if it costs you your Hindutv or self-respect.

Both your Hindutv and your self-respect are more precious things for you than your fame, ‘Yashasam’.

You can obtain your fame, ‘Yashasam’ even through your Hindutv or self-respect.

But you can’t get your Hindutv or self-respect through your fame, ‘Yashasam’ ever.

Consequently, your fame, ‘Yashasam’, is never important for you more than your Hindutv or self-respect.

But if you have your Hindutv and self-respect already, your fame, ‘Yashasam’, is very helpful for you to live life easily and magnificently.

Never think to live your life easily and magnificently is a sin even infinitesimally.

It is never a sin if you can manage it to have with your Hindutv and self-respect too.

Of course, you should never bargain for it with your Hindutv or self-respect.

Your Hindutv and your self-respect are ever far more precious for you than to live your life easily and magnificently.

But if you can manage to live your life easily and magnificently with your Hindutv and self-respect too, why shouldn’t you do it?

We are never against you for living your life easily and magnificently.

We are never jealous of you for it.

And why should We?

It’s always helpful in Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam.

When even the Vr’trs see that you are living your life easily and magnificently with your Hindutv and self-respect too, they can think to have it too.

They may decide to obey Us themselves.

6. ‘vīrvattamam’.

Fullest of the brave ones.

Any other system, whatsoever it maybe, can never guarantee you it.

It is Our System, Hindutv only that can guarantee you to live your life easily and magnificently with your Hindutv and self-respect too, with extremely full of the brave ones.

Being extremely full of brave ones makes your life far easier and magnificent.

Why shouldn’t you have it if you can manage it?

We are not against the comforts and luxuries of life for you.

Instead, We always want you to have it if you can manage to have them with your Hindutv and self-respect too.

Only your Hindutv and self-respect are the things We never want you to lose.

R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 2

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

16. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

22. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

29. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

39. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

40. Saamved: Mantr 1

41. Sāmved: Mantr 115

42. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

43. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

44. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

46.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

51. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

54. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

55.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

56.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Par updésh kushal bahutéré

There are so many persons experts in preaching others

 

DSM Satyarthi

                When Pakistan was being fought for, there was one great Muslim who was sincerely and untiringly fighting against it, while even Bharat Ratn Dr. BR Ambedkar had written laboriously ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’ in the favor of Pakistan.

That great Muslim was Maulana Saiyad Abul Åālā Maudūdī raħamatullah ålayhi.

He argued:

Until and unless we don’t develop a true Muslim character in ourselves, it is dangerous for Islam even, to have our own country’.

How right the great man was.

Let’s watch a video what a character a Mufti has now developed  in the so-called Pakistan:

Pakistani actress lays it out for a mullah live on national TV!

What a character!

What a sense of justice!

Is it what they fought for?

Is it they killed thousands of persons for?

Rape with children in Madarsas?

Incredible?

But true, isn’t it?

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3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Llā yamassuhu illā almutahharūn

17. Fa’in kħiftum allā tådilū fa wāħidatan

18. Islam according to Ved

19. Wa in tusliħū wa tattaqū: And if you correct and control yourself

20. Par updésh kushal bahutéré

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 2

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

16. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

22. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

29. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

39. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

40. Saamved: Mantr 1

41. Sāmved: Mantr 115

42. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

43. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

44. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

46.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

51. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

54. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

55.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

56.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

The Star of the Millennium:

Amitabh Bachchan

And his heroines

DSM Satyarthi

When he worked with Rajesh Khanna in Anand, none had anticipated he would successfully cross every boundary of stardom, yet he did.

His heroines range from heroines of yesteryears to those of present day even.

Waheedah Rehman, Sairah Bano, Tabbu and Jiah Khan, all are his heroines.

Waheedah Rehman has pride of working with our Star of the Millennium, Amitabh Bachchan, in Mahaan and Adalat, as his heroine.

1. Jidhar dekhoon teri tasveer nazar aati hai

2. Humka aisa vaisa na samjho, hum bade kaam ki chiz

Sairah Bano also succeeded in being his heroine in two films, Hera Pheri and Zameer.

3. Kaun anjam-e-ulfat nahin janta?

4. Tum bhi chalo, hum bhi chalen,

5. Phoolon ke dere hain

6. Tum bhi chalo, hum bhi chalen

7. Zindagi hansne gaane ke liye hai

It was a tragedy Amitabh Mumtaz were teamed only in one film, Bandhe Haath.

8. Yeh kaun aaj aaya mera dil churane?

9. Dekho ye mere bandhe haath

The most successful pair of Amitabh was with Parveen Bobby.

Even Zeenat Aman could not cross its success.

Zeenat Aman was Amitabh’s heroine in six films:

Lawaris

Don

The great gambler

Dostana

Mahaan

Pukar:

10. Kaahe paise pe itna ghuroor kare hai?

11. Kabke bichhde hue

12. Apni to jaise taise

13. Are diwano, mujhe pahchano

14. Jiska mujhe tha intezar

15. Khai ke paan Banaras wala

16. Yeh mera dil pyar ka deewana

17. Tum kitne din baad mile

18. O diwano, dil sambhalo

19. Do lafzon ki hai dil ki kahani

20. Bahut khoobsoorat jawan ek ladki

21. Dillagi ne di hawa

22. Mere dost, qissa ye kya ho gaya?

23. Aadhi baat ho chuki

24. Pyar mein dil pe maar de goli

25. Asli kya hai, naqli kya hai

26. Samundar mein nahake aur bhi namkeen ho gai ho

Parveen Bobby succeeded in working with Amitabh in Nine films:

Amar Akbar Anthony

Majboor

Kaalia

Khuddar

Mahan

Shaan

Kala Patthar

Suhaag

Namak Halal

However, in last three films, she was teamed with Shashi Kapoor, instead of with Amitabh Bachchan.

27. Kabhi sochta hoon

28. Sanam, tum jahan, mera dil wahan

29. Tum sath ho jab apne

30. Jabse tumko dekha

31. Angrezi mein kahte hain ki

32. Mach gaya shor sari nagri re

33. My name is Anthony Gonsalves

34. Humko tumse ho gaya hai pyar

35. Anhoni ko honi kar den

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More audio musical blogs from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Zindagi, aa raha hoon main

2. Zindagi ik safar hai suhana

3. Jo tum hansoge

4. Har Chehrā yahān chānd to har zarrā sitarā

5. Main jahan chala jaaoon, bahaar chali aaye

6. Socha tha pyar hum na karenge

7. The Star of the millennium: Amitabh Bachchan

Socha tha pyar hum na karenge

an interesting audio musical blog:

Just listen to, and enjoy

Click the links to some popular songs, in an interesting specific sequence. It is said that Mukesh is the tragedy king in singers. Hear these songs, and decide yourself wasn’t he very good in serious romantic songs more?

DSM Satyarthi

1. Nazar nazar se ho rahi hai bat pyar ki

2.Kyon jhuki jhuki hain palken?

3.Do qadam tum bhi chalo, do qadam hum bhi chalen

4.Chori chori jo tumse mili to log kya kahenge?

5. Socha tha pyar hum na karenge

6. Ik manzil raahi do, phir pyar na kaise ho?

7.Humsafar, mere humsafar, pankh tum parvaz hum

8.Tumhari mast nazar gar idhar nahin hoti

9.Yeh wada karen, jahan bhi rahen,

10.Dil ki nazar se, nazaron ki dil se, yeh baat kya hai?

11.Duniya walon se door, jalne walon se door,

12.Teri shokh nazar ka ishara

13.Saiyan chhod de baiyan, mori patli kalaiyan,

14.Tum roothi raho, main manata rahoon

15. Ik raat mein do do chaand khile

16. Ibtada-e-ishq men hum sari rat jage

17.Kuchh aese bandhan hote hain

18.Jume ki rat ho ya din jumerat ka

19.Mehtab tera chehra

21. Mere sapnon ki rani, kab ayegi tu

22.  Hum tujh se muhabbat karke, Sanam!

23. Bol meri taqdeer men kya hai, mere humsafar ab to bata

24. Ansu bhari hain yeh jivan ki rahen

25.O Shama, mujhe phoonk de

26. Tera jana, dil ke armanon ka lut jana

27. Sab kuchh sikha humne, na sikhi hoshiyari

28.Phool ahista phenko

29. Tum aa gaye ho, noor aa gaya hai

30. Tumhari bhi jai jai

31. Dekh chand ki ore

32. Bhigi bhigi raton men

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More audio musical blogs from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Zindagi, aa raha hoon main

2. Zindagi ik safar hai suhana

3. Jo tum hansoge

4. Har Chehrā yahān chānd to har zarrā sitarā

5. Main jahan chala jaaoon, bahaar chali aaye

6. Socha tha pyar hum na karenge

Main jahān chalā jāūn,

bahār chalī āyé

an interesting audio musical blog:

Just listen to, and enjoy

Click the links to some popular songs, in an interesting specific sequence. It is said that Mukesh is the tragedy king in singers. Hear these songs, and decide yourself why our tragedy king, Dilip Kumar, chose Muhammad Rafi as his voice, instead of Mukesh.

I think great Muhammad Rafi has given us more immortal tragedy songs than Mukesh even.

Enjoy the songs as if an audio story, implying an alogether different sense:

DSM Satyarthi

1. Main nigahen tere chehre se hataun kaise

2. Boojh mera kya naam re

3. Haal kya hai dilon ka na poochho , sanam!

4.Yahi hai tamanna tere dar ke samne

5. Main jahan chala jaaoon, bahaar chali aaye

6. Kahin pe nigahen kahin pe nishana

7. Tere mere sapne ab ek rang hain

8.Na jane din kaise jivan men aaye hain

9. Kabhi aar kabhi paar laaga teer-e-nazar

10. Turururu turururu tera mera pyar shuru

11. Shayad meri shadi ka khayal dil men aya hai

12.Dil jo na kah saka

13.  Dil se dil milne ka koi kaaran hoga

14.Man re tu kahe na dhir dhare

15. Gadi wale gadi dhire haank re

16.Rang aur noor ki barat kise pesh karoon?

17. Dukh bhare din bite re bhaiya

18. Din dhal jaye haye raat na jaye

19. Jaane kaise kab kahan iqrar ho gaya

20. Yeh duniya yeh mahfil mere kaam ki nahin

21. Phool jahan jahan bahar wahan

22. Yaad na jaaye bite dinon ki

23. Yeh samjho aur samjhao

24. Patthar ke sanam, tujhe humne

25. Koi maane ya na maane

26. Kah do koi na kare yahan pyar

27. Pyar hi jine ki soorat hai

28. Jo guzar rahi hai mujh par use kaise main bataaoon

29. Mohabbat bade kaam ki cheez hai

30. Aaj madhosh hua jaye re

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More audio musical blogs from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Zindagi, aa raha hoon main

2. Zindagi ik safar hai suhana

3. Jo tum hansoge

4. Har Chehrā yahān chānd to har zarrā sitarā

5. Main jahan chala jaaoon, bahaar chali aaye

How to establish ‘Rām Rājý’/

Ħukūmat-e-Ilāhī/The Kingdom of

God

DSM Satyarthi

The basic question arises, when we talk of establishing ‘Rām Rājý’/ Ħukūmat-e-Ilāhī/ the Kingdom of God, is why an atheist must be interested in it.

If you please forgive me for my bluntness and bitter truth, I want to ask a question myself.

Why is an atheist afraid of it so much?

The atheists are not in majority on the Globe.

Then why do they expect the Hindus/the Musalmīn/the Christians/the Jews/the Pārasīs to surrender to them?

Why do they want to rule on the entire Hindus/ Musalmīn/ Christians/ Jews/ Pārasīs?

Isn’t it itself wrong on its face?

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More thought provoking articles from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Why can’t we love each other?: Innallāh yuħibbul muttaqīn

2. Should we advocate abolishing religion from planet earth?

3. Does religion provide false security?

4. Polygamy: a discarded system of life

5. The hidden agenda of Congress

6.No danger from RSS. The real danger is from anti Hindus

7. Voting for a satellite government?

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. N’ karm lipyaté naré

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More on Islam from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Llā yamassuhu illā almutahharūn

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

16. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

17 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

19. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

21. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

22. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

27. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

29. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

39. Saamved: Mantr 1

40. Sāmved: Mantr 115

41. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

42. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

43. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

44. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

45.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

46. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

51. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

54.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

55.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

Ved: 1 R’gved:

Mandal 1| Sūkt 33|Mantr 2

 Ashŧak 1| Adhyāý 3| Anuvāk 1| Varg 1

 DSM Satyarthi

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Upédaham dhanadāmapratītam jushŧām n’ shyéno vasatim patāmi.

Indram namasyannupmébirarkairyah stotr’bhyo havyo asti yāman.

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Padpāŧh: Up| it| aham| dhan’dām| aprati’itam| jushŧām| n’| shyénah| vasatim| patāmi|

Indram| namasyan| up’mébhih| arkaih| yah| stotr’bhyah| havyah| asti| yāman.

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1Only through worship2 I reach3 that gives wealth4, invincible5, the one who is used with love6, nest7 as if hawk8.

Respecting the controller of organs, with comparable suns9, who is able to self sacrifice10, for the persons that offer Stavans11, in the way12.

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1.       R’shi: Hirañyastūp Mahimvat Āngiras

Dévtā/Divine Subject: Indr, the controller of organs.

Chhand/Meter: Nichr’t Trishŧup

Svar: Dhaivat

2.       up it’ in original rext.

3.       patāmi’ in original text.

4.       dhanadām’ in original text.

I reach individually, not because We are the

Creator, but because We are interested in her individually.

Dhanadām’ in original text is in feminine gender.

I never reach individually to a woman, even if she gives wealth, who does not worship.

Never forget Ved is a book of movement.

It does not want to create a nation.

It wants to federate nations instead.

It wants to federate the entire infinite creations even.

It does not want to destroy your individuality.

On the contrary, it wants to develop and evolve your individuality instead.

Hinduism is actually a federation of infinite individualities.

These infinite individualities are federated here for their own benefits, achieving their goals in such a way that none of others is harmed.

Yes, it is possible.

How?

Ved answers this question principally and Our eternal Ācharañ Nāyak, Param Purush, answers this question practically.

The persons who think this movement is true and practical, but can’t/don’t join it due to their various individual reasons feel shame in not joining it.

So, they join the wicked persons knowingly or unknowingly.

They never talk on Hinduism rationally.

They tell Hinduism maybe right but Hindus are not.

Well, they know very well that they are not being called to be what the other Hindus are.

They are being called to join a movement.

What is the rational behind claiming that a movement is right, but he/she is not joining it because the other persons in the movement are not true to their convictions?

Even if they are not, are you?

It maybe that they are not true to their convictions, but it is the same with you too.

The kettle is calling the pot black.

Haven’t you yourself accepted that the movement is right?

Then isn’t it your own conviction?

Are you true to it?

I reach individually to a woman, who gives wealth, if she worships’ ‘Upédaham dhanadām patāmi’, means her giving wealth is not enough for Us to reach her.

She may be giving wealth to others.

She may be even giving wealth to Our movement, Our mission of life/existence, Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam.

But she does not have proper training for using Our grace she gets thus, to develop and evolve herself and others correctly.

So, it may be even harmful to her.

Our shaktipāt, Our grace, Our energy is only available to a person who takes proper training for using it correctly.

Of course, she could get financial benefits by giving wealth thus.

But there is a vast difference in getting financial benefits from Us and getting Shaktipāt from Us.

5.   ‘Invincible’, ‘Apratītam’.

This is one of the other benefits she may get, but not Shaktipāt however.

6.  Jushŧām’ in original text.

It is the second benefit she may get, but not Shaktipāt however, until and unless she doesn’t take proper training for it.

We don’t want the persons to be able to purchase Shaktipāt.

It cannot be purchased anyhow.

Even if a person gives every individual penny s/he has, s/he cannot purchase Our Shaktipāt.

S/he can get it through proper training and through proper training only.

It is Our System We have established for the benefits of Sukr’ts, and it cannot be changed, amended or destroyed.

You are allowed to fight against it, change it, amend it and even destroy it if you want.

But the history of humankind till now is in evidence that no such persons ever succeeded in changing, amending or in destroying it.

The Rāxas societies in the leaderships of Hirañý Kashipu, Hirañyāx, and Rāvañ etc. tried their best to do it.

Where are those Rāxas societies today?

The Pārsīs rejected Our system of Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam.

They called themselves Pārsīs attributing Hindus sex obsessed primitive pagans.

When they started, they established their own vast empire even, gradually, eventually.

But they couldn’t face the Islamic aggression.

Why?

If they were really Pāras, the stone that converted irons into gold, why couldn’t they convert the Musalmīn as well?

At least they should have saved their own identity and their own homeland.

Why they had to resort to the homeland of the primitive sex obsessed Hindus they despised so much?

The same Islam, with all of its aggression attacked the homeland of the primitive sex obsessed Hindus too.

What could it get?

Only Pakistan that too was divided into Bangladesh and Pakistan soon.

Doesn’t it prove that Our system to protect Sukr’ts is infallible?

7.       Vasatim’ in original text.

I never reach any dhanadā even, if she is not in a nest.

Our system does not accept the nestlessness of a woman even if she worships Us and gives wealth to Our cause.

It is not enough for a woman.

A nestless woman is open to the selfish and wicked ones.

We give her at least parents.

She cannot be nestless until and unless she refuses their patronage, or they are dead.

Even if her parents are dead, she must approach to a Sukr’t, or a society of Sukr’ts.

It is impossible there isn’t even one Sukr’t anywhere.

Param Purush is always there.

One may say that Param Purush does not exist, but then Our system also does not exist because it is based on Ved, and Ved acknowledges the immortal existence of Param Purush.

Védāhamétam Purusham mahāntamāditývarñam tamasah parastāt.

Tamév viditvāti mr’tyuméti nānyah panthā vidyaté’yanāý.’

1I KNOW this man2, the END of greatness3/the great End4, to be chosen5/having color LIKE SUN, BEYOND THE REACH OF DARKNESS.
KNOWING ONLY HIM, one crosses death.
There isn’t another way to live the life.’

Ved: 2 Yajurvéd: 31|18

8.   N’ Shyéno ’’ in original text.

It is believed that ‘Shyén’, hawk/eagle, is the utmost sexiest among birds.

I reach ‘dhanadām’, the woman that gives wealth, invincible, the one who is used with love, ‘I reach nest as if hawk/eagleUpédaham dhanadāmapratītam jushŧām n’ shyéno vasatim patāmi’ does mean that it is Our own responsibility, a woman must get optimum love and sex.

It’s her ‘Bhog’ she must get from Us.

It’s Our duty to provide her what she needs.

Naturally, the ‘Purush’ We have made, for it, is made quite capable to do it.

In his absence, Hindu Vishv must arrange accordingly optimum, as Hindu Vishv represents both Us and him, if he is not present somewhere.

Hindu Vishv, if it is really Hindu Vishv, can’t run away from its responsibility We have ordered here.

After its duties towards Our Ācharañ Nāyak/Vishvarshi/Hindu Vishv itself, the utmost prior duties the Hindu Vishv has to pay its attention to, is to arrange so that no woman is available to any wicked.

It must arrange and manage that every Sukr’t must be as if a hawk/eagle in this matter.

He must never hate sex/women.

We know the so-called cultured persons say it is itself wicked to think of sex even.

But this Mantr wants you to decide who will decide your system and mission of life and existence.

You cannot tolerate it any more.

How can you be a cultured person, a gentleman, a lady, if you cannot provide a woman even a Sukr’t husband?

Isn’t it the everfirst duty of an actual gentleman and an actual lady?

How can you bear that a woman is forced to transfer a wicked’s wickedness to the next generation?

And if you bear it, how you can be a gentleman or a lady actually?

Of course, the wicked ones and the fools would never agree to it.

But why do you too?

If they don’t care what you want, why do you care what they want?

Is their conviction to wickedness is more intense than your own conviction to humanity/Us?

If it is, should it be ever?

Should you ever be less convicted to humanity/Us than the wicked ones are convicted to their vile selfish wickedness even?

And if it is so, are you really a gentleman/lady?

And if it is so, who should improve him/herself?

We know, some of you want to avoid conflicts with the wicked ones.

But the wicked ones don’t want to avoid conflicts with you on the cost of their wickedness.

Do you want to avoid conflicts with the wicked ones on the cost of your humanity?

Then humanity can never win.

How the humanity can ever win on the wickedness, if its followers always surrender to the wicked ones?

Such coward persons can never run Our movement of Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam.

Hinduism is a movement of the brave persons, not that of cowards.

You can’t make all better, ‘Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam’, until and unless you don’t augment Indr, the controller of organs, urging the utmost beautiful girls and young ladies:

Été asr’gramāshavo’ti hvarānsi babhravah, Somā r’tasý dhārayā.

Indram vardhanto apturah Kr’ñvanto vishvamāryam,

Apaghnanto arāvñah.’

‘These Swift flowing tawny colored Som, with a stream of eternal truth, let loose/proceed, augmenting Indr, urging the utmost beautiful young girls and ladies,making all better, destroying the withholders.’

Ved: 1 R’gved: 9|63|4-5

You should never forget that to make all better, Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam’, it is not enough to be an Ārý, a better person, only.

You have to augment, expand Indr too, ‘indram vardhantah’.

Until and unless you don’t augment indr, ‘indram vardhantah’, you cannot complete your mission of life/existence.

You have to provide enough indrs to the women so that none of them has to surrender to any wicked, ‘apturah’.

Don’t listen to the wicked ones who criticize that no religion must do this.

And if Hinduism/Ved does it as a mission of life/existence, Hinduism/Ved is not a religion.

The wicked ones have to adopt this attitude for their own survival.

Do you want the survival of the wicked ones, keeping them wicked?

If not, how can you surrender to their selfish and vile wishes ever, at all?

They can adopt any attitude whatsoever they may see fit.

How can you?

9.   Indram namasyan up’mébhih arkaih’ in

original text.

Comparable suns’ ‘up’mébhih arkaih’ is said as a figure of speech here.

You have to study, peruse and even analyze the history of the persons who have already done it in the past.

Naturally, you have to face almost the same problems they had to face.

Yet, never forget, the path of ‘Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam’ is never always full of invincible problems.

The wicked ones are never absolutely invincibles.

Of course, Lord Ram had to face a great difficult forest life for fourteen years continuously because the wicked ones were more powerful then, for that particular period.

But, after those fourteen years, Lord Ram had never to see backward.

It’s similar with every one of our obedients who either wants to be an Indr, a controller of organs, or has achieved to be the same.

So many of the persons lose their courage when they see the difficulties of the path of Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam.

Yet, they forget it’s only primary stage.

After some time, when the wicked lose their power to the nobles/Sukr’ts, the Sukr’ts have never to see backwards, if they really follow Our System, as inteligentally as they should.

The wicked can never win indefinitely in Our System if the Sukr’ts do really follow Our System We have given them in Ved.

Indram namasyan up’mébhih arkaih’ means you can’t do it dishonoring and disrespecting the Indrs.

It is Our surefire System in Our infinite creations, that the persons who don’t control their organs, anindrs, can’t win over the persons who control their organs, Indrs.

The System never allows the ultimate defeat of an Indr, even in this physical material world.

If it were possible, communism did not have to lose its power within such a short time as seventy-two years only.

But the condition is, you have to follow the‘Comparable suns’ ‘up’mébhih arkaih’ ‘respecting the persons who control their organs.

You have to progress.

Our System is Progressive.

Indr préhi purastvam.’

Controller of organs, you keep marching ahead.’

Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 20|5|3

There are so many persons who believe that the path of Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam is always full of sacrifices and sacrifices only.

You have even to die for it.

There aren’t any sweet fruits for you in it in this physical world.

You would get them only after you die, in heaven.

No.

They are quite mistaken.

If what they hold is true, it means all the comforts and luxuries of this physical world are  only for the persons who don’t do Kr’ñvanto Vishvamāryam, ever.

Is it possible?

You have to sacrifice in this path only till your collective Shaktimān is not greater than the collective Shaktimān of vr’trs/dushkr’ts/ the wicked ones.

Once you cross them in your collective Shaktimān, there maybe some of you who don’t have their proper individual Shaktimān who still have to sacrifice somewhat longer, but not all of you.

Wickedness can’t win indefinitely on nobility in Our System spread all over in Our infinite creations.

We haven’t made Our infinite creations for the comforts and luxuries of the wicked ones.

They win on the Sukr’ts only when the Sukr’ts follow their own childish systems.

They don’t get guidance from Our Immortal Constitution.

Well, that’s their own fault.

They are given absolute freedom even to reject Us, abuse Us, reject Our Immortal Constitution, and do anything whatsoever they damn please.

We haven’t created infinite creations to exhibit Our almightiness.

We don’t need it.

Aren’t We almighty irrespective of anyone’s acceptance of it?

The people conceive erroneous ideas about Us and expect Us to follow them.

If We do really exist why should We do it?

And if We don’t exist as some of you think in their childish ignorance why should even then We do it?

10.  Havyo asti’.

No indefinite self-sacrifice is necessary, never forget.

You have to do it only till your individual Shaktimān doesn’t cross the collective Shaktimān of the wicked ones, and/or your imaginations, your mind, your brain and your heart is not purified optimum.

Once your individual Shaktimān has crossed this point, you would never have to see backwards.

Never learn anything about Us and Our Immortal Constitution from the persons who don’t themselves learn from Our Immortal Constitution.

How can We held responsible for their own childish ideas?

Haven’t We revealed Our Immortal Constitution for people?.      

11. ‘Stotr’bhyah’.

Only through worship2 I reach3 for the persons that offer StavansUpédaham patāmi stotr’bhyah’ is an important revelation.

It explains why do We reach individually even a woman that gives wealth for Our cause, even if she does not offer Stavans to Us.

Even it is done for the persons that offer Stavans’ ‘stotr’bhyah’, not for the persons who don’t offer Stavans to Us.

One may say why this condition is necessary if We don’t want Us praised.

But the question itself explains that neither the person asking this question has offered any Stavan ever to Us nor s/he does understand what a Stavan is.

Stavan is not Our praise even infinitesimally.

It contains two main parts.

The first part is Meditation.

It unites your infinite etheric bodies in one united brain mentally.

It enhances your energy, collecting it, at a place.

It unites your diversified imaginations, ideas, thoughts, knowledge and plans into one unified entity, enhancing their intensity:

Tīvr samvégānāmāsannah.’

Pātanjal Yogdarshanam: Samādhipād 21

Mr’dumadhýādhimātratvāttato’pi vishéshah

Pātanjal Yogdarshanam: Samādhipād 22

Moreover, it synchronizes your brain with the Universal eternal facts, the persons present where you are and the entire infinite creations.

The second part of the Stavan is, understanding what’s taken in it.

It distributes the shaktipāt, received in Meditation, properly, in your body, to its proper places.

12.   Only through worship2 I reach in the way’  ‘Upédaham patāmi yāman’ does mean I do it only when a person, the woman giving the wealth, does it in Our path:

Nānyah panthā vidyaté’ýnāý’.

‘No other way does exist to live the life.’

Ved: 2 Yajurvéd: 31|18

If she does not do it in Our path, We never reach her, whatsoever wealth she may spend anywhere.

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More Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 5| Mantr 3

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 5

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 7| Mantr 8

4. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 2

6. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 3

7. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 4

8. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 5

9. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 6

10. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 7

11. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 8

12.R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 19| Mantr 9

13. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 1

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 33| Mantr 2

14. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 58| Mantr 6

15. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 20

16. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 164| Mantr 46

17. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

18 R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

19. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 6| Mantr 2

20. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

21. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 26| Mantr 2

22. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

23. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

24. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

25. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

26. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

27. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 63| Mantr 4-5

28. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

29. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 85| Mantr 42

30. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

31. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 2

32. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 3

33. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 4

34. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 11| Mantr 1

35. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 13| Mantr 4

36. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 23| Mantr 3

37. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 31| Mantr 18

38. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr2

39. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 40| Mantr8

40. Saamved: Mantr 1

41. Sāmved: Mantr 115

42. Sāmved: Mantr 641: Mahānāmnyārchik| 1

43. Sāmved: Mantr 650: Mahānāmnyārchik| 10

44. Sāmved: Mantr 651: Uttarārchik

45. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

46.  Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 3

47. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 4

48. Atharv Ved: Kānd 3| Sookt 30| Mantr 6

49. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 6

50. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 7

51. Atharv Ved: Kānd 4| Sookt 4| Mantr 8

52. Atharv Ved: Kaand 4| Sookt 13| Mantr 1

53. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 6

54. Atharv Ved: Kaand 8| Sookt 4| Mantr 22

55.  Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 1| Mantr 22

56.Atharv Ved: Kaand 14| Sookt 2| Mantr 25

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