Ved: Yajurved: Poorv Vinshati: Adhyāý 1: Mantr 1

September 22, 2008

Ved: Yajurved: Poorv Vinshati: Adhyāý 1: Mantr 1

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Om ishe tvorjje tvaa vaayav sth’ devo vah savitaa praarpayatu shreshthtamaay’ karman’aapyaayadhvamaghnyaa’indraay’ bhaagam prajaavateeranameevaa’ayaxmaa maa v’ sten eishat maaghshagvagvonso dhruvaa’asmin gopatau syaat bahveeryajmaanasy’ pashoonpaahi.

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1. 1Om! for food/the will power, thee. For energy, thee. Breezes are ye. Divine Creator impel, you all, to noblest work. Complete properly, Inviolable female! share for the controller of organs. Rich in offspring/subject. Free from sickness. Free from diminishing. No thief rule on you, no evil-praiser. Be constant in this master of ‘go’, numerous females! Guard the cattle of the worshiper.

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1. Yajurved is the second volume of Ved.

Yajurved is divided into forty chapters. Each chapter is called ‘Adhyāý’.

These forty chapters are grouped in two groups of twenty chapters each.

The first group is called ‘Poorv Vinshati’, and the second one is called ‘Uttar Vinshati’.

‘Vinshati’, in Sanskr’t, means ‘twenty’, nothing else.

It is clear from this Mantr, thus, that Yajurved does not deal with definitions, as R’g Ved did.
It deals with family and politics.
Family:
‘Complete properly, Inviolable female! Share for the controller of organs. Rich in offspring/subject. Free from sickness. Free from diminishing.’
‘aapyaayadhvamaghnyaa’indraay’ bhaagam prajaavateeranameevaa’ayaxmaa. ‘

Politics:
‘No thief rule on you, no evil-praiser.’
”maa v’ sten eishat maaghshagvaongso.’

Throughout Yajurved, we find these two subjects, mainly, dealt with.

Ralph T. H. Griffith M.A., C.I.E. has introduced Yajurved thus:

THE YAJURVEDA—derived from the roots yaj, to sacrifice or, worship, and vid, to know,—is the Knowledge of Sacrifice or Sacrificial Texts and Formulas as distinguished from the Rigveda or Knowledge of Recited Praise, the Sâmaveda or Knowledge of Chanted Hymns, and the Atharva or Brahmaveda which is the Knowledge of Prayer, Charm, and Spells. Though ranking second in the Indian enumeration of the Vedas and containing much that is of very ancient origin, its compilation in its present form, exhibiting as it does the almost complete development of castes and mixt castes and considerable advance in arts and sciences, trades, handicrafts and occupations, is evidently of later date than that even of the Atharva.’

I’m sorry to disagree, profoundly, with the learned scholar of Ved, Ralph T. H. Griffith M.A., C.I.E., here.

First of all, Ved should not be valued, each volume separately, altogether.

It can be valued thus, to evaluate each volume of Ved, separately.

But, even then, the evaluator must never forget that these volumes are, after all, the volumes of a Complete Book.

The entire Book has a meaning of its own.

The volumes are necessary to provide easy perusal of the book.

They are not separate books.

They are volumes of a Complete Book, conveying its own meaning.

Unfortunately, this original concept is missing altogether in these prefaces, or introductions to separate volumes of Ved, making them erroneous thus.

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

13. Saamved: Mantr 1

14. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

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More on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

Why Hinduism is IMMORTAL?

November 13, 2008

Why Hinduism is IMMORTAL?

Ab initio,right from the beginning of the creations, Hinduism claims that it exists:

‘Naasadaaseeno sadaseettadaaneemnaaseedrajo
no vyomaa paro yat,

kimaavareevah kuh kasy’ sharmannambhah kimaaseedgahanam gabheeram?
N’ Mr’tyuraaseedamr’tam n’ tarhi
n’ raatryaa ahn aaseetpraketah,
aaneedavaatam svadhayaa tadekam
tasmaaddhaany’nn’ parah kinchanaas.’

- Ved: 1R|10| 129 Naasadeey’ Sookt| 1-2.

Dr. Isaac Asimov has translated these two

mantrs:

‘Then was not nonexistent nor existent,
there was no realm of air, no sky beyond it.
What covered in, and where?
And what gave shelter? Was water there,
Unfathomed depth of water?
Death was not then,
nor was there aught immortal:
no sign was there, the day’s and night’s divider.
That One Thing, breathless,
breathed by its own nature:
apart from it was nothing whatsoever’.
- Creations: Isaac Asimov: Harrap London 1984: p.101.

Moreover, he has written an introductory note also:

‘Those people whose education and experience have been sharply limited to their own communities are apt to end with a totally self-contained view of the Universe. Their language is the only language. Why should anyone call a boy a knabe or a garcon, when a boy is manifestly a boy?
Again, people who believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God often believe that the King James Bible, specifically, that is so inspired, and turn away in horror from any attempt to correct or modernize what is after all merely a translation. Or as one aged parishioner said, waving his Bible,‘If the King James was good enough for the prophets and apostles, it is good enough for me.’
Yet there are sophisticated attempts at penetrating the mysteries of creation that are neither scientific nor Judo Christian and here is one of them: a Hindu Attempt.
There are points in it that resemble Genesis1 (chaos and darkness first, and then light), and points that do not (the Universe first and gods next, rather than reverse).
- Creations: Isaac Asimov: Harrap London 1984: p.101.

It faced successfully all the aggressions and attacks on it, whether Raxasism of Ravan that had a slogan of ‘Wayam Raxaamah’ ‘We Protect’; Persianism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Communism, atheism and what not .

They converted entire nations elsewhere.
Mind you, not only one nation, NATIONS.
Yet, the same philosophies, the same systems of life, the same religions; marched to India, very aggressively, YET FAILED MISERABLY.

Why is it so?

Even, now the internationally famous, and respected poet, Sir Muhammad Iqbal, when he was an Indian, wrote with a great pride:

‘Kuchh baat hai ki hasti mitti nahin hamari,
dushman raha hai sadiyon, daure jahan hamara.’

What is that ‘baat’?

The humanity of Hinduism, of course!

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

2.‘Devasy’ pashy’ kaavyam, n’ mamaar, n’ jeeryati.’

3. Hinduism shines

4.Ved is the eternal law book having infinite knowledge in it for human beings

5. ‘According to facts’: ‘Yaathaatathyatah’

6. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

7. The Evernew Hinduism: Yaathaatathyatah: Ved 2|40|8

8. ‘How to cross death’: ‘Tamev viditvaati mr’tyumeti’: Ved2Yajurved|31|18

9. According to Hinduism: We must be polite, not coward

10.Ye yathaa maam prapadyante taanstathaiv bhajaamyaham: Lord Kr’shn

11. ‘Maachchhitthaa asmaallokaat’ ‘Be not severed from this world’: Ved

12. The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

5. Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad

6. Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi

7. A Moment of grave thinking for the entire sophisticated Muslim Community

8. ‘SET THIS WOMAN for WELL DOER’: ‘Imaam naareem Sukr’te dadhaat’

9. ‘V’ innahu fe UMMALKITAABI ladainaa la’liyyun hakeemun’: 43/4

10. Most Present day Muslms don’t do what Huzoor(SAW) did:

11. The Muslim beauties are wooing Hindu men FASTEST

12. ‘What really matters in the sight of God’: Maulana: Maududi

13. Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?

14. Why there are differences among us?

15. No differences Please!

16. Communal Muslims discuss my Muslim wife, me and my Muslim women: Durgesh


Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

 

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

13. Saamved: Mantr 1

14. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

Socialism in Hinduism

November 13, 2008

Socialism in Hinduism

Socialism refers to any of various economic and political concepts of state or collective (i.e. public) ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods and services, some of which have been developed into more or less highly articulated theories and/or praxis.[1] In a Marxist or labor-movement definition of the term, socialism is a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done with the goal of creating a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[2] This control may be exercised on behalf of the state, through a market, or through popular collectives such as workers’ councils and cooperatives. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, cooperative, or worker ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Hinduism does not oppose PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Yet, it preaches to its followers:

‘Eishaavaasyamidagvong  sarvam,
yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat,
Ten tyakten bhunjeetha,
Maa gr’dhah kasy’ sviddhanam.’

Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.’

‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All;
Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse.
With that renounced, enjoy thyself,
Covet no wealth of anyone.’

Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee but this
so action cleaveth not the man.’

-Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/1-2.’

The policy, how to behave with the Multiverse surrounding us, is described here, in these two Mantrs.

The first point of the policy is,
‘Eishaavaasyamidagvong  sarvam’
‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All,’

What is this ‘all’?
Ved itself elaborates:
‘yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat’
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse.’

The second point of the policy is:
‘Ten tyakten bhunjeetha’
‘With that renounced, enjoy thyself’

This is the reason, why it was enunciated that–
‘Eishaavaasyamidagvong sarvam’
‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All,’

If ‘yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat’
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse.’
is panentheable by the Lord, it means THAT IT IS NOT OURS, that it belongs to Eishan Param Brahm Parmatma.

An atheist may laugh at it,

An atheist may laugh at it, but he can’t refuse that:
‘yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat’
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse’
was present here before he was even born, and will CONTINUE to remain here, even when he’ll die.

So, how it can be his/her?

If one insists that there isn’t any God, even then
‘yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat’
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse’
can’t be his/her.
It may be that of the nation, but NOT HIS/HER.

It is the fact that’s been reminded here effectively.
Why?
So that a person should not develop an emotion of possession for
‘yatkinch’ jagatyaam jagat’
‘Each thing, whatsoever moves in the Multiverse’.

With this true emotion that nothing is actually mine, one should enjoy the multiverse:
‘Ten tyakten bhunjeetha’

This principle, enunciated here, thus destroys all the roots of all possible corruptions.

The PRINCIPLE, thus stated in Ved, however, was not limited actually TO THE VEDIC AGE ONLY.
The Hindus, whether they know about anything of Ved or not, they still believe in:
‘SABAI BHOOMI GOPAL KI.’
‘The entire land belongs to the God.’

What is this strong belief of present day Hindus?
It’s the same old Ved Mantr, expressed in different words only:
”Eishaavaasyamidagvong sarvam’
‘Panentheable by the Lord must be This All,’

Ved does not state this principle only lightly in one place.
It repeats the principle AGAIN AND AGAIN, emphasizing thus, that THE VED IS ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
It says:
‘Kevalaagho bhavati kevalaadee.’
‘One is personified sin, if one eats alone.’
It orders its followers:
‘Shathast samaahar, sahasrhast samkir.’
‘Hundred handed! collect from everywhere properly. Thousnd handed! Distribute properly.’
-Ved: 4Atharv Ved: 3/24/5

The question is:
WHY HINDUISM DOES NOT OPPOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY, as Communism and Socialism do?

The question becomes more important when one knows about the philosophical, legal and political debates on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property

Hinduism believes in family.
It orders its followers:
‘Ihaiv stam maa viyaushtam vishvamaayurvyashnutam,
Kreedantau putrairnaptr’bhirmodmaanau sve gr’he.’

‘Abide only here, both of you, never be separated, Enjoying your entire life:
Sporting with sons and grandsons, happy in your own home.’
-Ved: 1 R’g Ved: 10/85/42

This order was so important,in the eyes of Ved, that it repeats it again, in Atharv Ved, explaining how its followers’ homes should be:

‘Ihaiv stam maa viyaushtam vishvamaayurvyashnutam,
Kreedantau putrairnaptr’bhirmodmaanau svastakau.’

‘Abide only here, both of you, never be separated, Enjoying your entire life:
Sporting with sons and grandsons, rejoicing well-homed.’
-Ved: 4 Athrv Ved: 14/1/22

Here, Hinduism differs with both the Communism and Socialism, strongly.
Hinduism orders a stout family, for entire lifetime of a person, man or woman.
It orders JOINT FAMILY even.
Communism and Socialism, in their sheer foolishness, are trying their best to destroy it, CREATING, THUS, SO MANY SOCIAL AND MEDICAL PROBLEMS, for their blind supporters.
Including madness and suicides, too.

‘Is capitalism any better.’
No.
I’m not proposing Capitalism.
I’m proposing HINDUISM.
I’m proposing PROFOUND HUMANITY.

I’ve written:
‘Ved does not state this principle only lightly in one place.
It repeats the principle AGAIN AND AGAIN, emphasizing thus, that THE VED IS ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
It says:
‘Kevalaagho bhavati kevalaadee.’
‘One is personified sin, if one eats alone.’
It orders its followers:
‘Shathast samaahar, sahasrhast samkir.’
‘Hundred handed! collect from everywhere properly. Thousnd handed! Distribute properly.’
-Ved: 4Atharv Ved: 3/24/5 ‘

Is it Capitalism?

Certainly NOT.

It’s Hinduism.

Sanyas is not the goal of Hinduism

November 13, 2008

Sanyas is not the goal of Hinduism

–DSM Satyarthi

Though it is quite right that Hinduism is the everfirst Philosophy/System of life that preaches spirituality, its goal is not, and was never, SANYAS, the renunciation.

Ved is the ultimate book and the ultimate authority on Hinduism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hinduism.ht…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hindu…
http://hinduism.about.com/
http://www.hinduism.co.za/
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/religion…
http://uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/religionet/er/hindu…
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/index.htm

Yet, it does not preach Sanyas.
Instead, it preaches:
‘Ten tyakten bhunjeetha’
‘With that renounced, enjoy thyself’
‘Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.’

‘Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee, but this,
so action cleaveth not the man.’

-Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/2.’

‘Bhunjeethaa’
‘enjoy thyself’
NOT ‘Tyajeethaa’ ‘Renounce thyself’.

Elsewhere Ved says:
‘Aham bhoomimadadaamaaryaayaaham
vr’shtim daashusshe martyaay’,
Ahamapo anayam vaavashaanaa,
Mam devaaso anu ketamaayan.’

‘I have bestowed the land/earth upon the Aary’/better. I’ve rain upon the one who donates and never forgets that one has to die. I guided forth the loudly roaring waters/beauties/deeds.
The divine ones moved according to my discipline.’
-Ved: 1 R’g Ved: 4/26/2

‘Aham bhoomimadadaamaary’
‘I have bestowed the land/earth upon the Aary’/better.’
FOR WHAT?
To renounce it?
If so, there was no need to BESTOW IT ITSELF ab initio.
Why this useless (Shanno Mitrah! Shaantam Paapam!) bounty then?
If ultimately it was to be renounced, why bestow it ab initio?
So, it’s quite natural to understand that the land/earth ‘bhoomim’ has been bestowed upon the ‘Aary’/the better’ to enjoy it-’Bhunjeethaa‘ ‘Enjoy thyself’, NOT ‘Tyajeethaa’ Renounce thyself’.

Shri Ramcharit Manas describes the attributes of ‘Ram Raajy’:
‘Chaariu charan dharm jag maaheen,
poori rahaa sapnehun agh naaheen.’

‘Dharm had filled the universe with all its four steps. There was no sin at all, even in dreams.’
-Shri Ramcharit Manas: 7 Uttar Kand: 20/3

What are these four steps of Dharm?
Dharm, Arth, Kaam and Mox, naturally.

Lord Ram never resorted to Sanyas.
Lord Kr’shn‘ never did it, too.
Lord Ram is called MARYADA PURUSOTTAM.
Lord Kr’shn‘ is called YOGESHVAR.
What do you mean?
They did not know even WHAT HINDUISM IS?
And they did DHARM SANSTHAPAN even without knowing it?
Nonsense!

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

12. Saamved: Mantr 1

13. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

Sati tradition was an Aasur Tradition, not Vedic at all

November 15, 2008

Sati tradition was an Aasur Tradition, not Vedic at all

–DSM Satyarthi

Ved does not preach a wife to burn herself with the dead body of her husband.
There isn’t any such verse.
A person, Suraj, has claimed that:
‘just tell me in ur religion wife has to be burnt alive if his husband dies (this verse has been removed from vedas by swami viveknanda)still u are claming women has equal right in hinduism.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I replied it:
Which verse?
Quote it with proper reference from Pre Vivekanand literature.
No such verse existed ever.
It’s only an anti-Hindu propagnda:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Hindu
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…
I further confirmed it:
‘True.
I’ve already asked him.
He can’t produce any, because there never was any such verse .
If it was there, why Kaushalya, Kaikeyi, and Sumitra, any of these three widows of Dashrath, did not follow it?
It was an Aasur tradition, not Vedic, at all.
Sulochna followed it, and Ravan did not stop her.
Hindus adopted it afterwards from Asurs, in their profound stupidity.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/TB1…

It’s my stand in the matter.
If someone disagrees with me, he/she is most welcome to post his/her arguments with competent references to be checked.

Ved, quite contrary to the so called Sati Tradition, instructs the widows:
‘Udeershv naaryabhi jeevlokam,
gataasumetamup shesh ehi.
Hastgraabhasy’ didhishostavedam
patyurjanitvamabhi sam babhooth.’

‘Stand up, woman! come to the wanted world of living beings.
It is the remnant of the gone, your hand-holder husband’s, maker’s you pregnant, birth.
Behave properly as you like.’
-Ved: 1R’gved: 10|18|8

The words used by Eishan Param Brahm Paramatma are quite clear.
‘Stand up, woman!’
‘Udeershv, naari!’
Don’t sit there helpless.
Collect yourself.

‘Come to the wanted world of living beings.’
‘ABHI JEEVLOKAM EHI.’
‘Ehi=Aa+ihi.”Come.’
‘wanted world of living beings’
‘ABHI JEEVLOKAM’.

‘It is only the remnant of the gone’
‘Gataasumetamup shesh’

It’s not your husband any more.
It’s only his remnant ‘Up Shesh’.
He has gone,’Gataasum’.

‘your hand-holder husband’s’
‘Hastgraabhasy’Patyuh’
‘maker’s you pregnant’
‘didhishostav’

‘Birth”Janitvam’,
NOT DEATH ACTUALLY.

He hasn’t died actually.
He has taken REBIRTH.
This body was not suitable for him. any more.
He has gained a new body.

Lord Kr’shn‘ has explained this phenomena as:
‘Vaasaansi jeern’aani yathaa vihaay’,
navaani gr’hn’aati naro’paraan’i,
tathaa shareeraan’i vihaay’
jeern’aanyanyaani samyaati navaani dehee.
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-22…

‘As a man gets other new apparels giving up old worn out garments,similarly giving up the old worn out bodies, the embodied gets other new ones.’
-Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 2|22
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-22…

The woman is free to do whatever proper for her she likes:
‘Behave properly as you like.’
‘ABHI SAM BABHOOTH’.
-Ved: 1R’gved: 10|18|8

Ved does not take this matter lightly.
It repeats it again in its fourth and concluding volume, Atharv Ved:
‘Udeershv naaryabhi jeevlokam,
gataasumetamup shesh ehi.
Hastgraabhasy’ didhishostavedam
patyurjanitvamabhi sam babhooth.’

‘Stand up, woman! come to the wanted world of living beings.
It is the remnant of the gone, your hand-holder husband’s, maker’s you pregnant, birth.
Behave properly as you like.’
-Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 18|3|2

Exactly the same words, those in R’g Ved 10|18|8

Horace Hayman Wilson comments on this Mantr:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Hayman_Wi…

‘This verse is to be spoken by the husband’s brother etc., to the wife of the dead man, and he is to make her leave her husband’s body.
See the Ashvalaayan Gr’hy’ Sootr: 4|2.’
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe29/sbe2914…

He further comments:
‘THIS VERSE IS INTERESTING AS SHOWING THAT IN LATEST PART OF THE VAIDIK AGE, THERE WAS NO TRACE OF SUTTEE.’

So, I think, even Horace Hayman Wilson agrees with me, in the matter.

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

Atheism can’t win Hinduism/Ved:DSM Satyarthi

November 17, 2008

Atheism can’t win Hinduism/Ved:DSM Satyarthi


In April 2008, there was an interesting discussion on Ved, Hinduism and atheism.
I reproduce it here, with every word, in original, for the benefit of the interested persons:
Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Man you guys suck!!! How stupid is this post. All you stupid Pakis are obsessed about your Islam and your f**ked-up Allah, while all you stupid Indians are obsessed about Hinduism and other shit. Religion SUCKS! It is the biggest destroyer of lives and love in the world. If only religion never existed. Of course it must be noted that however religious the people are, at least India is officially a secular country, while even the Pak govt is obsessed about Islam shit. Racially both India and Pak is the same. It’s not Pak’s fault they got beaten at the wars, India is a bigger and richer country. But all that shit about Indians doing cool science and shit before the west is bullshit. All lies propagated by BJP etc. Me, I am neutral, even though I’m Indian. I don’t give a damn about holy f**king cow gods or shapeless Mohammed-f**ker Allah. All that is BULLSHIT. But at least Indian economy is doing really good, and Indians have the power in their country to protest and select their own govt. We never had a dictator. But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c346

I commented lightly:
‘Though I differ with you in your views about religion, I love your request :’But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c347

Indiann Nanaimo, Canada said:
‘They are HOTTEST because

For centuries they have been abducting HOTTEST girls from all over Asia.
And hiding there faces
They are the daughters of the ones they abducted for years.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c348

I again commented lightly:
‘I repeat Adi’s request once again:’But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on’.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c349

Actually, their women are themselves asking for it now:

Muslimahs! Come to India. I recommend Hindu lovers for all the Muslimahs.: Khadeejah Muhammad’:

http://dsms.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/muslimahs-come-to-india-i-recommend-hindu-lovers-for-all-the-muslimahs-khadeejah-muhammad/

True Indian Lorain, OH responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
Man you guys suck!!! How stupid is this post. All you stupid Pakis are obsessed about your Islam and your f**ked-up Allah, while all you stupid Indians are obsessed about Hinduism and other shit. Religion SUCKS! It is the biggest destroyer of lives and love in the world. If only religion never existed. Of course it must be noted that however religious the people are, at least India is officially a secular country, while even the Pak govt is obsessed about Islam shit. Racially both India and Pak is the same. It’s not Pak’s fault they got beaten at the wars, India is a bigger and richer country. But all that shit about Indians doing cool science and shit before the west is bullshit. All lies propagated by BJP etc. Me, I am neutral, even though I’m Indian. I don’t give a damn about holy f**king cow gods or shapeless Mohammed-f**ker Allah. All that is BULLSHIT. But at least Indian economy is doing really good, and Indians have the power in their country to protest and select their own govt. We never had a dictator. But I’ll say this for Pakistan, you’ve got some of the HOTTEST girls in the world. You’re doing the world a great disfavour by hiding their faces. Free your women, come on.

ur father n mother r f..ker…how dare u to write against hindu gods?..u r welcome accept islam..we dont need u in our hinduism..
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…

I again commented lightly:
‘How do you know he is really a Hindu?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c351

True Indian Lorain, OH responded:
‘If he is not hindu…its really good..We dont want such f..kers in our Hinduism…and if he is not hindu and saying abusing about hindu gods…he has no right to live in India.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c352

Adi declared:
‘I am NOT a Hindu. Please don’t insult me by putting me in any religion. I am an out-and-out atheist. My whole family is Hindu, my parents etc etc. and so is everyone else around me. But I am educated and scientific enough to know that religion is bullshit, all religions including hinduism, islam, christianity, sikhism, jainism, judaism etc etc. Why don’t you people realise that GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!! I mean, how can you believe in something that DOES NOT EXIST? I have no right to live in India? Who says India is a Hindu country? India is a SECULAR country, which means even superior people (i.e. atheists) like me who believe in science and not superstitions have a right to live here. And I have the freedom of speech, I can insult any religion I want. Let’s see you insult my religion, i.e. science, True Indian.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c353

My response to it:
‘I suspected it from your comments.
I don’t “insult”(?) you by putting you in any religion. Moreover, I congratulate you for being a best son to insult your father, mother and all your family by calling them Hindu.
Great! what an atheist tradition!
Insult your father, insult your mother, insult your family. It is the proof that you are a good atheist.
I congratulate you Mr. Atheist! you are brave enough to kick your father, mother, and family on their butts.
Enjoy the high morals of atheism.
Best of luck.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c354

I said to True Indian:
True Indian wrote:
‘If he is not hindu…its really good..We dont want such f..kers in our Hinduism…and if he is not hindu and saying abusing about hindu gods…he has no right to live in India.’

He has confessed now. I told you so already.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c355

Adi said:
‘Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism. I’ll say I don’t have any. Or if you call science, ethics, logic etc religion, those are all mine. I’m not saying calling anyone a Hindu is insulting them. But calling me a Hindu is insulting me.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p16#c356

goldendame New Delhi India said:
‘Adi,

I guess you have not understood Hinduism properly. Hinduism is not just praying to God or conducting poojas. I don’t do that either, but I still call myself a staunch Hindu. Reason being, Hinduism is not a religion, it is a way of life.

**********
Hinduism is a way of living according to the one’s understanding of principles of Vedas and Upanishads.

Veda is revealed knowledge. Just as the knowledge of gravity was revealed to Newton, similarly, in India, many Rishis or Seers were awakened to certain transcendental Eternal Truths. These Rishis realized that their real nature was not concerned with or linked with ‘body or mind’, nor was it dependent on sense perceptions, but was in fact identical with the Universal Consciousness.

Upanishad means ‘to sit down near’ because they were explained to the students, who sat at the feet of their teachers. In general Upanishads proclaim salvation by knowledge and realization, rather than by faith and works.

**********

PS: The above 3 paragraphs are a ref from Hindu Forum where someone has written about Hinduism and I found it apt to quote here.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…

Hinduism is not just praying to Idols… Hinduism has many branches. Ayurveda, Yoga, Astrology, Astronomy – amongst others are part of Hinduism.

Hinduism is full of logics, you can visit the Hindu forum and discuss the same there.

My response to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism. I’ll say I don’t have any. Or if you call science, ethics, logic etc religion, those are all mine. I’m not saying calling anyone a Hindu is insulting them. But calling me a Hindu is insulting me.

Sorry! I can’t grasp your logic, Mr. Adi! You say calling you Hindu is insulting to you but not insulting to your parents and family. How is it possible? If the word ‘Hindu’ is insulting like dog or donkey or swine it is insulting to everybody. If it is not so, it is not insulting to you also. Or you feel insulted if you are called wise, brilliant, capable even? What do you think the word ‘Hindu’ means? An idolater? No, it does not. Perhaps you haven’t gone through it’s Sanskr’t dictionary meaning ever. I know. You don’t need it. All the atheists who were born in a Hindu family are fools enough that they lose their logic. They attach one meaning to a word for them and completely another meaning to the same word for others. You are following the same tradition among you so called atheists. What do you know about Hinduism that you hate it so much? I don’t think you know Sanskr’t even and have gone through Ved ever. Do you realize what are you doing? You are hating something which you don’t know even what it is actually in its full form. And you call you are following logic and science!What a joke!
Well, keep it on.
Mr. Adi! I am proud of being Hindu because only Hinduism is the hope for humanity today. Thank Hinduism that has taught its followers to be liberal enough to bear with persons like you.
We Hindus practice religious democracy that even you atheists don’t:

‘RELIGIOUS DEMOCRACY in Hinduism: Ekam sadvipra bahudhaa vadanti’:

http://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/religious-democracy-in-hinduism-ekam-sadvipra-bahudhaa-vadanti/

We are not fools to hate something we don’t know altogether.
You don’t know Hinduism yet you hate it.
Very brilliant of you!
Isn’t it?’

‘Hinduism is PRINCIPLES BASED , not PERSON BASED’:

‘Whom do I worship?: DSM Satyarthi’

‘Sanyas is not the goal of Hinduism’

‘Socialism in Hinduism’

‘Why Hinduism is IMMORTAL?’

‘One should not wish to die: Ved hates death:DSM Satyarthi

‘Why did Lord Kr’shn marry 16,100 Sheikhzadis?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c359

True Indian Lorain, OH responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I am NOT a Hindu. Please don’t insult me by putting me in any religion. I am an out-and-out atheist. My whole family is Hindu, my parents etc etc. and so is everyone else around me. But I am educated and scientific enough to know that religion is bullshit, all religions including hinduism, islam, christianity, sikhism, jainism, judaism etc etc. Why don’t you people realise that GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!! I mean, how can you believe in something that DOES NOT EXIST? I have no right to live in India? Who says India is a Hindu country? India is a SECULAR country, which means even superior people (i.e. atheists) like me who believe in science and not superstitions have a right to live here. And I have the freedom of speech, I can insult any religion I want. Let’s see you insult my religion, i.e. science, True Indian.

You r alive because of India and Hinduism..if u live in any muslim country u would be probably killed ..and u deserve it…

U cant insult hindu God the reason is it is insulting of 87 crore Hindus….and we dont forgive those who insult us…this is not ur problem…ur parents r fool…they dont know what to teach u ..they did a big mistake by giving born to u..and they will pay it in future.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c360

I responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism. I’ll say I don’t have any. Or if you call science, ethics, logic etc religion, those are all mine. I’m not saying calling anyone a Hindu is insulting them. But calling me a Hindu is insulting me.

You say:

‘Well my parents don’t practice Hinduism. They don’t sit and pray or keep idols etc. But if someone asks them what their religion is, they’ll say Hinduism.’
It means your parents lie?

Well, how much you continue this great tradition?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c361

True Indian Lorain, OH said:
‘Soon Narendra Modi is coming to Delhi and the ppl like u are thrown away to pakistan very soon so be prepare for it….Shame on u and ur parents..

U look like small kid..but where r ur parents…dont they have mind ..they will pay for doing this mistake.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c362

I said:
‘goldendame wrote:
<quoted text>
Adi,
I guess you have not understood Hinduism properly. Hinduism is not just praying to God or conducting poojas. I don’t do that either, but I still call myself a staunch Hindu. Reason being, Hinduism is not a religion, it is a way of life.
**********
Hinduism is a way of living according to the one’s understanding of principles of Vedas and Upanishads.
Veda is revealed knowledge. Just as the knowledge of gravity was revealed to Newton, similarly, in India, many Rishis or Seers were awakened to certain transcendental Eternal Truths. These Rishis realized that their real nature was not concerned with or linked with ‘body or mind’, nor was it dependent on sense perceptions, but was in fact identical with the Universal Consciousness.
Upanishad means ‘to sit down near’ because they were explained to the students, who sat at the feet of their teachers. In general Upanishads proclaim salvation by knowledge and realization, rather than by faith and works.
**********
PS: The above 3 paragraphs are a ref from Hindu Forum where someone has written about Hinduism and I found it apt to quote here

Mr. Adi! I wait your scientific criticism over it that you are so proud of. Let’s talk about your atheist logics Mr. Adi! I think all the atheists are fools. Prove me wrong! I invite you.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c363

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I don’t have to prove anything to people who believe in stuff that have no proofs.
Prove you wrong? Prove yourself right. Show me your god. I mean, an earthquake comes, is it seismic waves and release of the earth’s core energy? No, it’s lord shiva angry with humanity or something. Hindus are not secular. You heard what the ‘true indian’ said. Narendra Modi sucks, look at his forehead, covered with ashes or something. Most of the people who are sadhus and stuff aren’t even literate. Whereas none of the highly-educated people practice religion much. We have secularism and democracy because luckily the people who created out national government were educated in the west. I don’t hate Hinduism in particular. I hate all religions in general. Thrown to pakistan? Hahaha. So is India going to become a Hindu country? What the hell are you doing in USA,’true indian’? If India is a Hindu country then US is a christian country, and you’d be very happy if the americans kicked your a** like your great modi is planning to kick mine. Atheists don’t practice democracy? All the great democracies of the world are secular states, eg US, France, Britain, India etc. You are trying too make India into Saudi Arabia, only Hindu instead of Muslin. What difference does that make?’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…

‘It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c365

My response:
‘And why I have to show you my God?

Who do you think you are to ask me for it?

You are using the word my ‘God’. Do you know what is my concept of God?

‘Whom do I worship?’:

http://dsms.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/whom-do-i-worship-dsm-satyarthi/

And yet without knowing even it, you are asking me to show you my God.

You don’t know what I think of God and even then asking me to show Him to you.
This is an example of your so called atheist scientific logic.

You are proving what I said true.

All the atheists are outright fools.

They don’t know even how to logic.’

http://www.topix.com/fAdi from New Delhi wrote:
It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

I responded:
‘A second example of stupidity of atheists.

How do you know I feel insulted if you call me a Muslim? How do you know?

You assume it, like all the other foolish atheists assume; and do not try to know.
You assume.
Your atheism is nothing except some foolish assumptions of yours.
Hinduism stands on revelations.
Atheism stands on assumptions!
And they say they have logic and science on their sides.
Great!

If nobody calls you superior you yourself go ahead and pat your back calling you superior!
What a scientific and logical attitude!
Isn’t it?

And isn’t it the third proof that all the atheists are outright fools?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c367

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘I don’t have to prove anything to people who believe in stuff that have no proofs.
Prove you wrong? Prove yourself right. Show me your god. I mean, an earthquake comes, is it seismic waves and release of the earth’s core energy? No, it’s lord shiva angry with humanity or something. Hindus are not secular. You heard what the ‘true indian’ said. Narendra Modi sucks, look at his forehead, covered with ashes or something. Most of the people who are sadhus and stuff aren’t even literate. Whereas none of the highly-educated people practice religion much. We have secularism and democracy because luckily the people who created out national government were educated in the west. I don’t hate Hinduism in particular. I hate all religions in general. Thrown to pakistan? Hahaha. So is India going to become a Hindu country? What the hell are you doing in USA,’true indian’? If India is a Hindu country then US is a christian country, and you’d be very happy if the americans kicked your a** like your great modi is planning to kick mine. Atheists don’t practice democracy? All the great democracies of the world are secular states, eg US, France, Britain, India etc. You are trying too make India into Saudi Arabia, only Hindu instead of Muslin. What difference does that make?’

I responded:
‘You don’t have to prove because you can’t prove.
How do you know I believe in stuff that have no proof?

How do you know what I believe and what I don’t?
You assume!

Don’t you?
Mr. scientific! Mr. Logical! you assume too much.

You don’t think there is any need to know something before proving it wrong.
How biased you are!
What a scientific and logical attitude of yours!
Salute to your great scientific and logical wisdom! Wow!’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c368

True Indian Lorain, OH responded to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I don’t have to prove anything to people who believe in stuff that have no proofs.
Prove you wrong? Prove yourself right. Show me your god. I mean, an earthquake comes, is it seismic waves and release of the earth’s core energy? No, it’s lord shiva angry with humanity or something. Hindus are not secular. You heard what the ‘true indian’ said. Narendra Modi sucks, look at his forehead, covered with ashes or something. Most of the people who are sadhus and stuff aren’t even literate. Whereas none of the highly-educated people practice religion much. We have secularism and democracy because luckily the people who created out national government were educated in the west. I don’t hate Hinduism in particular. I hate all religions in general. Thrown to pakistan? Hahaha. So is India going to become a Hindu country? What the hell are you doing in USA,’true indian’? If India is a Hindu country then US is a christian country, and you’d be very happy if the americans kicked your a** like your great modi is planning to kick mine. Atheists don’t practice democracy? All the great democracies of the world are secular states, eg US, France, Britain, India etc. You are trying too make India into Saudi Arabia, only Hindu instead of Muslin. What difference does that make?

India is ready to invite all the religion but not its terror…India accept muslims but not terror
India accept christians not their forcibly converstion..
India accepts sikhs but not khalistan movement..

India is secular…but dont bow in front of minorities…This is the face of India…

U r acceptable in Hinduism….and as i told u before too..this is not ur fault…ur parents r biggest fools of the earth who didnt slap u on ur thoughts…so I dont want to talk to u..its not ur fault.’
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV6…


Adi from New Delhi wrote:
It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

True Indian said:
‘We dont want to call u hindu..We dont want to talk to u..We want to talk to ur parents who gave born to u..(shame on ur parents..they cant give their religion to their son..f..kers..)’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c370

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I’m not asking you to bow to minorities. Obviously that’s wrong. Obviously terror and forced conversions etc are wrong. But that’s not the debate here. The debate is whether religion is right or not. I don’t really have time to think much about how people prove religion etc. And your parents are the f**kers… let me explain. For eg, when we were both kids, we both would have asked our parents “What is lightning?”. My parents would have said “Lightning is a highly charged bolt of electricity caused by potential difference between rainclouds and the earth’s surface.” Your parents would have said “Lightning is lord indra throwing down his heavenly spears.” Now tell me, which set of parents f**ked their kid up?

I’m an atheist, therefore, I assume nothing. Anything which is proved to me, I believe. As your religion and god and hours of chanting mantra and not eating beef has not got you any tangible results, I refuse to believe in it. Once again, show me proof of god, and I will believe.

Science cannot answer everthing. At least not yet. There are millions of unanswered questions in the universe. But trying to make up answers instead of searching for them (which is what religion is), is hypocracy. Whatever the answers really are, only through science can we know them.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c371

‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought. Anyone who believes in religion is free to do so. I’m not trying to force you into not doing that. All I’m giving here is my opinion. Which is of course based on material evidence, not on faith on unseen and unfelt powers, gods etc. My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c372

True Indian Lorain, OH said:
‘I m religious that doesnt mean i dont believe in technology…I m technology graduate so dont try to teach me how light is working…My parents r also engineers so they know what is truth…

and u r telling ur parents r hindu so ur grandfather taught ur parents that indra throws light from sky..etc..so ultimately u proved ur grandfathers r f..ker….am i right or u say something wrong??’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c373

My response to Adi:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I’m not asking you to bow to minorities. Obviously that’s wrong. Obviously terror and forced conversions etc are wrong. But that’s not the debate here. The debate is whether religion is right or not. I don’t really have time to think much about how people prove religion etc. And your parents are the f**kers… let me explain. For eg, when we were both kids, we both would have asked our parents “What is lightning?”. My parents would have said “Lightning is a highly charged bolt of electricity caused by potential difference between rainclouds and the earth’s surface.” Your parents would have said “Lightning is lord indra throwing down his heavenly spears.” Now tell me, which set of parents f**ked their kid up?
I’m an atheist, therefore, I assume nothing. Anything which is proved to me, I believe. As your religion and god and hours of chanting mantra and not eating beef has not got you any tangible results, I refuse to believe in it. Once again, show me proof of god, and I will believe.
Science cannot answer everthing. At least not yet. There are millions of unanswered questions in the universe. But trying to make up answers instead of searching for them (which is what religion is), is hypocracy. Whatever the answers really are, only through science can we know them.’

I said to it:
‘Well, you are answering True Indian not me.
My questions still hammer on your head.
The only portion I can relate to my questions is this:
‘I’m an atheist, therefore, I assume nothing. Anything which is proved to me, I believe. As your religion and god and hours of chanting mantra and not eating beef has not got you any tangible results, I refuse to believe in it. Once again, show me proof of god, and I will believe.’
Again, assuming many things and still not knowing what you are doing even.

How do you know that my religion, and God, and hours of chanting Mantr and not eating beef has not got me any tangible results?
How do you even know I chant Mantr for hours?
You assume it.
Do you not?
And you call it a scientific and logical attitude.
What a brilliant person your atheism has made you.
Don’t try to know anything about other person before contradicting him, just go on assuming and criticizing your own foolish assumptions about him blindly.
That’s why I call you all atheists foolish.
Keep it on. The wise persons are laughing and enjoying your foolish answers very much.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c374

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I am NOT talking about you in particular, “Humanity”. I am talking about Hinduism as a whole. And ‘True Indian’, my grandparents taught my parents exactly the same things as my parents taught me. It’s just that they don’t mind someone calling them hindu. I do. And if you do believe in science, you’ll know that the answers science and religion give to the same question are often different and contradicting. Which would you believe in such an occasion? In that lightning question, if you do believe in the eletricity explaination, then aren’t you discarding Hinduism?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c375

I said:
‘I think you must first answer True Indian as you find his questions easily answerable to you.
We’ll talk when you will finish with him.

It will give you more time to think, if you can, how to answer my questions.
You have written to me:’I am NOT talking about you in particular, “Humanity”. I am talking about Hinduism as a whole.’
O.K. Please tell me what Hinduism is.
As you have so deep knowledge of Hinduism that you are talking about Hinduism as a whole.
I am confessing to you openly with all my senses in proper condition, that I do not know what the whole Hinduism is after all.
You have known it because you are criticizing it.
It will give me some knowledge of Hinduism more that I still do not know.
We Hindus believe:
‘Ananta vai Vedah!”Ved is infinite in knowledge’.

Each and everything which the multiverse has and the existence beyond even multiverse, is described in Ved in its basic form.
‘Sarve Abhihite Vede sarvgyaanmayo hi sah.”Everything is there in Ved. Ved contains the entire knowledge’.’
Principally, where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one.

Ved is the knowledge given to us Hinus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.
You know it as a whole!

Very good!
Please enlighten me by answering this simple question–’What Is Hinduism?’
According to Hinduism why the God made the creations?
Let’s start from the beginning itself.
Okay?
I’m waiting eagerly for your valuable answers.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c376

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘Really? So you mean all the vedas arrived by fax from heaven, is it. The four books fell to earth from the skies? No they did not. They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe. They treated the dravidians (who were more intelligent than them, look at the tamilians) like shit, and they proclaimed that the vedas had come from the almighty. Every religion is like that. Mohammed claimed the quran had been told to him by allah, the bible claims jesus was really the son of god. IT’S NOT TRUE!!! These books were written by MEN, MORTALS THE SAME AS YOU AND I.

I don’t have intricate knowledge about hinduism. I’m not really interested. But I know some of the practices of Hinduism. It’s all around me, India’s full of it. And those practices are useless. They’re all a waste of time. You could spend the time you go to the temple and pray in doing some useful stuff, like studying, or playing football (I hate cricket, but if you like it you can play that too) or teaching, doing business, or creating music, anything valuable, anything that helps your country develop and you prosper. I know a lot about Indian culture, and it’s brilliant. Indian classical music is amazing. But so is so many other cultures. If you seperate culture from religion, you’ll see how much better they are on their own.

I’m sorry but I haven’t read the vedas. I don’t know much about why god (??) created the universe. I have read Ramayana, Mahabharata, the Bible and the Qoran. They’re all wonderfull peices of literature and make very good reading. But that’s all they are. They’re BOOKS. They’re fiction. THEY’RE NOT TRUE.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p17#c377

True Indian Lorain, OH said:
‘Adi from New Delhi wrote:
I am NOT talking about you in particular, “Humanity”. I am talking about Hinduism as a whole. And ‘True Indian’, my grandparents taught my parents exactly the same things as my parents taught me. It’s just that they don’t mind someone calling them hindu. I do. And if you do believe in science, you’ll know that the answers science and religion give to the same question are often different and contradicting. Which would you believe in such an occasion? In that lightning question, if you do believe in the eletricity explaination, then aren’t you discarding Hinduism?

Who told u in Hinduism it is written like Indra is throwing light..etc..Did u read it in any religious book?

The technology used at the time of Lord Ram was very much advanced….the ppl on those days also believe in Technology…do u know this?

Religion is the faith of ppl..ppl believe that there is some centre power who is control everything on earth…it is faith of ppl..and u dont have any right to play with it…so shut ur mouth.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c378

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Really? So you mean all the vedas arrived by fax from heaven, is it. The four books fell to earth from the skies? No they did not. They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe. They treated the dravidians (who were more intelligent than them, look at the tamilians) like shit, and they proclaimed that the vedas had come from the almighty. Every religion is like that. Mohammed claimed the quran had been told to him by allah, the bible claims jesus was really the son of god. IT’S NOT TRUE!!! These books were written by MEN, MORTALS THE SAME AS YOU AND I.
I don’t have intricate knowledge about hinduism. I’m not really interested. But I know some of the practices of Hinduism. It’s all around me, India’s full of it. And those practices are useless. They’re all a waste of time. You could spend the time you go to the temple and pray in doing some useful stuff, like studying, or playing football (I hate cricket, but if you like it you can play that too) or teaching, doing business, or creating music, anything valuable, anything that helps your country develop and you prosper. I know a lot about Indian culture, and it’s brilliant. Indian classical music is amazing. But so is so many other cultures. If you seperate culture from religion, you’ll see how much better they are on their own.
I’m sorry but I haven’t read the vedas. I don’t know much about why god (??) created the universe. I have read Ramayana, Mahabharata, the Bible and the Qoran. They’re all wonderfull peices of literature and make very good reading. But that’s all they are. They’re BOOKS. They’re fiction. THEY’RE NOT TRUE.’

I said:
‘Good to find you talking to me at last.
I knew you can’t talk seriously.

No atheist can.

You all go to senseless talks.
For example, who said to you that the Ved is received by fax?

Not me.

You are talking to me yet you are not answering me.

You are still keeping on to assume and assume and assume, and then start answering your foolish assumptions by criticizing them.
You are not the first.

All your colleagues do it.
They enjoy it very much.

They can’t criticize real Hinduism, so they have devised this unique method:

‘Don’t listen to Hindus ever.

Only pretend to listen to them and while pretending, go on to assume as many foolish things as you can.

When once they stop, you start to reiterate your foolish assumptions imposing them on Hindus and go on criticizing them.’
What a scientific and logical attitude!
And you say you are superior to us!

How?

Shame on you and your foolish comrades.
Why can’t you be true to yourselves at least?

Why can’t you see in the mirror how foolish you are?
Who said you that Ved is received by fax so you are criticizing it?

I certainly did not.
You have foolishly written:
‘The four books fell to earth from the skies? No they did not.’
Who said to you that the four books fell to earth from the sky that you are criticizing it and blessing me with your bounty to tell that ‘No, they did not.’?
What a bounty from you!

We Hindus thought they were received by fax.

The four books fell to earth from the skies.’

Now, you have revealed the greatest fact on us that it was not so.
All the Hindus are so much indebted to your scientific revelation.
Nonsense!

Always assuming foolishly and then criticizing own foolish assumptions!
These are the atheists!
The greatest fools I’ve seen till now!

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c379

‘You have written:

‘They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe.’

Of course they were writtn by Aryans.

I never said that the God wrote them.

He is beyond doing these silly things.

Even a short lived executive has his steno.

We can’t assume God not to have even that facility or alike.

However, you are talking of history till now not of principles.

History is not Hinduism.

Hinduism has history.

I will not argue with you about the Aryan Invasion theory.

You are too ill informed about it even.

You have not updated yourself and yet you are preaching me foolishly your outdated theories as if they are facts proven.

I won’t argue it because it does not concern our present discussion.

Our present discussion is what is Hinduism.

It does not make any difference whether Aryans came from Central Asia, from outer space or from your own house!

Let them come from anywhere!

I’ll not claim even that they were aboriginal residents of India.

As I say it has no effect on our present discussion.

You just keep on to bring every extraneous matter under discussion as you want.

It’s the foolish strategy all the atheists adopt as they can’t talk to the point.

I am vigilant enough to throw away all the extraneous gibberish to keep you on track.
You have written:

‘I don’t have intricate knowledge about Hinduism. I’m not really interested. But I know some of the practices of Hinduism.’
I knew you can’t talk about Hinduism because you don’t know about it.

You are talking about practices.

Every science and Philosophy has its two components:

‘Theory and Practice’.
Theory is a definite thing and it does not differ from person to person.

Practice depends on lot of things.

The ingenuity of the persons who are practicing it, plays a huge part.

In fact no two persons practice a theory alike.

They are not expected to even.

Practice, as such, differs from person to person.

You call this uncertain thing, ‘Hinduism’?

How brilliant of you!
Hinduism has its theory part in Ved.

And, for your kind information Mr. Atheist! The Hinduism is what the Ved tells us.
You haven’t read Ved.

So actually you don’t even know what Hinduism is.
You hate certain practices that differ everywhere.

You can do that.

I myself hate a lot of them.

I myself criticize openly lots of them that they are outright against Ved.

I don’t think I’m doing any harm to Hinduism.

On the contrary, I think I’m serving Hinduism far better than its so called other practitioners.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c380

Adi from New Delhi said:
‘I don’t get it. You’re critizing yet being so general. You never point out anything specific. You’re always saying I’m so illogical etc. I qoute you:

“Principally where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one.

Ved is the knowledge given to us Hindus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.”

You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine?

I was using a similie.

I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.

I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism.

Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.

Religion is ALL in the mind.

There has never been any natural evidence to support any practices of any religion.

If people would have searched for natural truth (which is what science is), we would have been far more advanced a world than we are now.

And you yourself know that as more and more is being known about nature, more deseases are being cured, the inherent NEED for religion and a belief in god of man is eroding.

Religion is slowly being wiped out.

It is happening much more fast in the west, but even in India, especially among the urban middle class, the trend of abandoning religion and embracing logic is growing.

For example (I’m quoting from Wikipedia), 70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.

This has to happen.

Religion is an outdated concept.

It cannot last.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c381

I said:
‘You are not specific yourself.

How the answer could be specific?

However, nothing is lost even now!

We can discuss further.
You write:
‘You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine? I was using a similie. I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.’
That’s what I mean.
It’s the theory you atheists have developed.

Yet, you treat and want us theists, to accept it as fact.
Why do you  think us fools, while the foolish acts are being done by you atheists, yourselves?

Mind you! I am using plural, not particularly you.
Lenin started it as a policy not to hear theists when they criticize the atheism.
He had especially instructed his followers not to join any argument with the theists if they talk with rationality and logic.
They must be criticized irrespective of how rational and logical they might be.
He instructed them logic with them when they are illogical and don’t logic with them when they are logical.
If you had gone through all the writings of Lenin you would have find it.

If you have not, you should, as Lenin was one of the most successful atheists.

Though, his atheism was not behind his success, it was his ingenuity.
You claim to be a person of scientific attitude yet you resort to simile when we start argument.
I have written:
‘You have written : ‘They were written by the aryans who came to india long ago from central asia and europe.’

Of course they were written by Aryans.

I never said that the God wrote them.

He is beyond doing these silly things.

Even a short lived executive has his steno. We can’t assume God not to have even that facility or alike.’
It was a complete answer to you in the matter, yet you repeat it again.
What do you mean?
We should accept your foolish theories as universal facts?

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c384

‘You write:
‘I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.’
How do you know?
What proof you have for it?
You think all our Rishis were liars?
Only you atheists are truthful?
I can’t buy it.
When we compare the characters of our Rishis and that of you atheists we find them more truthful than you persons are.
It is observed, in practice, that the liars make theft of others’ successful literary work and produce them as their own.
I haven’t seen a person who write as beautiful and as eternal literature as Ved and instead claiming the credit for it gives the credit to others.
Nobody does it.
However you are claiming it is the case in the matter.
How can I believe?
How many books have you written, or your friends, and attributed to others?
How many articles have you written or your friends and attributed to others?
How many poems have you written, or your friends, and attributed to others?
My dear friend! No one is as mad as  to do it.
Yet, you want me to believe this already super flop, rejected, and outdated crazy theory of Marx and Lenin?
Ved is a large literary and humanistic work.
It consists of more than even 20,000 verses.
This great literary and humanistic work was done and its writers did not claim they had written it.
They attributed it to God.
They claimed they saw it, not conceived.
It is not theirs.
It is given to them.
This alone act tells to any sane person that they were telling the truth.
The same writers who claimed that Ved were given to them, have written other books.
Those other books even lose the multiversal eternal concept and profound humanity we find in Ved.
These other books lack the depth Ved has.
How can it be if the Ved and the other books are from the same source?
A writer revises, improves himself in his later work more and more.

later work of the same Rishis must outexcel Ved more and more.
We find the case is not as such.
Ved outexcels on all the later Aryan work.
It itself establishes beyond all doubt that Ved is not their work.
So, my dear friend! you are quite mistaken.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p18#c385

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought. Anyone who believes in religion is free to do so. I’m not trying to force you into not doing that. All I’m giving here is my opinion. Which is of course based on material evidence, not on faith on unseen and unfelt powers, gods etc. My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’

I said:
‘You write:
‘My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’
And, similarly, if we extend your logic, how many lives would have been saved if Communism never existed!
Evidently, Communism is not a religion, at least the Communists don’t claim so.
It did not last even 75 years.
It could not complete even a century.
Yet, the lives, it did cost, were thousands of millions.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c401

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought. Anyone who believes in religion is free to do so. I’m not trying to force you into not doing that. All I’m giving here is my opinion. Which is of course based on material evidence, not on faith on unseen and unfelt powers, gods etc. My opinion is that religion sucks. ANd answer honestly, how many lives would have been saved if religion had never existed?’

I said:
‘You have written:
‘Of course another very important part of science and logical thinking is freedom. Freedom of thought.’
Communism does not believe in freedom of thought.
Go to the entire history of Soviet Empire which could not complete even a 3/4 century.
Through out its tenure the very first thing it snatched out of its people was the very freedom of thought you are talking of.’

Hinduism believes in Religious democracy, however.

‘RELIGIOUS DEMOCRACY in Hinduism: Ekam sadvipra bahudhaa vadanti’.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c402

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
It’s very simple. The people who don’t mind being called ‘hindu’ like most people around me, calling them hindu is not an insult. For example if I call you a muslim, you’ll get insulted. But calling a muslim a muslim is no big deal. Similarly calling me a hindu is an insult.’

I said:
‘Let me clear myself.
While going through this discussion again, I realized that perhaps I haven’t written anywhere what the true meaning of the word ‘Hindu’ according to Sanskr’t dictionary.
As none asked me perhaps I let it go at that.
Please allow me to provide the necessity.
According to Standard Sanskr’t Dictionaries,’Hindu’means:
‘Hindurdushtnr’h prokto’nary’neetividooshakah,
Saddharmpalako vidvan Shrautdharmparayanah’
‘A Hindu is called to be the one who never compromises with the wicked. He destroys the policies against humanism. He practices the system of life that is noble. He is intelligent and learned. He par excelles in the system of life described in Ved.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c403

Adi said:
‘I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.’

I said:
‘Hinduism did not say to follow corrupt practices.
In democracy, the malpractitioner candidates appeal to caste, creed, and selfish desires of certain groups of voters.
By extending your reasoning, one can claim: ‘If Democracy did not exist no malpractitioner candidate would have appealed to caste, creed and selfish desires to the voters, and would have divided the humanity.’
Do you think this reasoning correct?
Certainly not.
Then how what you say make Hinduism responsible for malpractices of its so called followers?
Why only followers are not responsible for what they did?
Why Hinduism in Principle?
Hinduism never preached them those malpractices.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c405

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘I don’t get it. You’re critizing yet being so general. You never point out anything specific. You’re always saying I’m so illogical etc. I qoute you:
“Principally where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one. Ved is the knowledge given to us Hinus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.”
You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine? I was using a similie. I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.
I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.
Religion is ALL in the mind. There has never been any natural evidence to support any practices of any religion. If people would have searched for natural truth (which is what science is), we would have been far more advanced a world than we are now. And you yourself know that as more and more is being known about nature, more deseases are being cured, the inherent NEED for religion and a belief in god of man is eroding. Religion is slowly being wiped out. It is happening much more fast in the west, but even in India, especially among the urban middle class, the trend of abandoning religion and embracing logic is growing.
For example (I’m quoting from Wikipedia), 70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.
This has to happen. Religion is an outdated concept. It cannot last.

‘I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.’

I said:

‘Interesting! What a logic!
If there were no nuclear science, there were no atom bomb, no Hiroshima, no Nagasaki, no terrorist country could have nuclear weapon. If there were no science, there were no nuclear science even!
I wonder whether I am talking to even a sane person!’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c409

Adi from New Delhi wrote:
‘I don’t get it. You’re critizing yet being so general. You never point out anything specific. You’re always saying I’m so illogical etc. I qoute you:
“Principally where it is possible to extract all the knowledge from Ved, practically it is never possible for any one. Ved is the knowledge given to us Hinus by the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Almighty.”
You really thought I meant fax as in fax, the machine? I was using a similie. I was saying that, contrary to what you said, Ved was not given to Hindus by the “Omipotent, Ominiscient and Almighty”. It was written by the Hindus themselves.
I agree many practices may not be part of the original Hinduism. Yet if Hinduism (or any other religion) had never existed, nobody would have any excuse for the practices. No women would have been burnt in sati, no man would have died in bloody riots, no partition would have taken place, no 9/11 would have happened.
Religion is ALL in the mind. There has never been any natural evidence to support any practices of any religion. If people would have searched for natural truth (which is what science is), we would have been far more advanced a world than we are now. And you yourself know that as more and more is being known about nature, more deseases are being cured, the inherent NEED for religion and a belief in god of man is eroding. Religion is slowly being wiped out. It is happening much more fast in the west, but even in India, especially among the urban middle class, the trend of abandoning religion and embracing logic is growing.
For example (I’m quoting from Wikipedia), 70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.
This has to happen. Religion is an outdated concept. It cannot last.’

I said:

‘Religion is ALL in the mind.’
Science is also not elsewhere.
If you are really a science student perhaps you have come across the statements of renowned scientists that in quantum theory and atomic theory the mental condition of the scientist plays a huge part.
Why is it so if these theories are not ‘all in mind’?’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TV63PGE6BCKQTR8LM/p19#c410

‘We Hindus practice religious democracy that even you atheists don’t.’

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TK4C9MBC2CTRIGT42

‘70% of Britain claimed they were not affiliated to any religious group, and only 33% said they ‘believed in a god’.’

It’s in Britain, because Britain is not a Hindu dominated nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#O…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#C…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#E…

I’m sorry to say that Christianity is not capable to face atheism.
However, it does not mean that Hinduism does also suffer the same weaknesses as Christianity does.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/hindu/T9NFQK5E77ANU5R13

Adi says:

It’s not Pak’s fault they got beaten at the wars, India is a bigger and richer country.’

I’m again sorry to disagree with our Mr. Adi here too.

India is bigger and richer, is not a fact unknown to anyone.

Naturally, every Government of Pakistan, irrespective of the fact whosoever it may be, knows the fact too.

Then why it fights with India at all?

That’s why its Pak’s fault, Mr. Adi, not anyone else’s.

Keep your sense of justice on the right track, at least,  if not the rest of your senses.

You say you are impartial.

Be justified too.

Thanks for bearing with me so long.

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Ved: R’gved: Mandal 1: Sookt1: Mantr 1

2.Ved: R’gved: Mandal 1: Sookt1: Mantr 2

One should not wish to die: Ved hates death:DSM Satyarthi

November 18, 2008

One should not wish to die: Ved hates death:DSM Satyarthi

Yajurved: Chapter 40: Mantr 2 states:
‘Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.’

‘Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee but this
so action cleaveth not the man.’

Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/2.

lt’s clear that it contains the Mantraansh under discussion.

‘Jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah’
‘One should wish to live hundreds of years.’
Ved is the Code of LIFE.
IT HATES DEATH.
It does not allow any SUICIDAL TENDENCIES, as some of the cultures do not only allow, rather preach death, under this or that pretext, like NIRVAAN‘ or else.
Ved is the SONG OF LIFE.
Somewhere else, it orders his followers:
‘Ut devaa avhitam devaa unnyathaa punah,
Utaagashchakrusham devaa devaa jeevyathaa punah.’
‘Divine ones! Divine ones!
raise up the downtrodden.
And, Divine ones! Divine ones! Make him to live again, who hath done evil.’
-Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 4/13/1

‘Utaagashchakrusham devaa devaa jeevyathaa punah.’
‘And, Divine ones! Divine ones!

Make him to live again, who hath done evil.’
-Ved: 4 Atharv Ved: 4/13/1
tells us that a person dies because of his/her evil doings.

It’s very important revealation.

It’s telling us why do we die.

It means, if we can avoid the basic root of the death, we can even LIVE FOREVER.

There is another Mantr also that confirms this very conclusion:
‘Vidyaam chaavidyaanch yastadvedobhayagvong sah,
Avidyayaa mr’tyum teertvaa vidyayaamr’tamashnute.’

‘Science and nescience, who knows the both simultaneously; by nescience crossing the death, by science, he obtains the eternity.’
–Ved2 Yajurved|40|14

‘Avidyayaa mr’tyum teertvaa vidyayaamr’tamashnute.’
‘By nescience crossing the death, by science, he obtains the eternity.’

It thus tells us how to cross death:

‘Avidyayaa mr’tyum teertvaa’

‘By nescience crossing the death’

Thus, it also defines the ‘AAGAH”EVIL’.
It’s nothing else except NESCIENCE.
So, Ved tell us, not to resort to NESCIENCE so that we can live long, and ultimately can WIN OVER DEATH too.
We can’t do it, if we don’t work at all:
‘Kurvanneveh karmaani’
‘Only Doing works here.’

So, the key point to win the death and to live for ever, is WORK EVER:

‘Kurvanneveh karmaan’i’

Lord Kr’shn’ confirms it:

‘Karman’yevaadhikaaraste maa phaleshu kadaachan

maa karmphlheturbhoormaa te sango’stvakarmani.’

‘Your right is in WORK ONLY, NEVER IN RESULTS. Don’t be KARMPHALHETU. Don’t be obsessed in worklessness.’

Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta: 2/47

Never surrender to laziness.

Nature does not help the lazy ones to live and enjoy life even.

‘Kurvanneveh karmaan’i
jijeevishechchhatagvong samaah,
Evam tvayi naanyatheto’sti n’ karm lipyate nare.’

‘Only Doing works here
one should wish to live hundreds of years.
No way for thee but this
so action cleaveth not the man.’

Ved: 2Yajurved: 40/2.

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Commentary on Ved from DSM Satyarthi:

1. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

2. R’gved: Mandal 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 2

3. R’gved: Mandal 2| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

4. R’gved: Mandal 3| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

5. R’gved: Mandal 4| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

6. R’gved: Mandal 5| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

7. R’gved: Mandal 6| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

8. R’gved: Mandal 7| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

9. R’gved: Mandal 8| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

10. R’gved: Mandal 9| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

11. R’gved: Mandal 10| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

12. Yajurved: Adhyaay’ 1| Mantr 1

13. Saamved: Mantr 1

14. Atharv Ved: Kaand 1| Sookt 1| Mantr 1

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More on Hinduism from DSM Satyarthi:

1. ‘Bhoorbhuvah svah!’ ‘The Existence! The Consciousness! The Bliss!’

Zindagi, aa raha hoon main: An interesting audio musical blog: Just listen to, and enjoy

November 23, 2008

Zindagi, aa raha hoon main: An interesting audio musical blog: Just listen to, and enjoy

Click the links to some popular songs, in an interesting specicific sequence. Enjoy the songs as if an audio story, implying an alogether different sense:

1. Hera Pheriyan

2. Sagar jaisi aankhon wali

3. Yeh hai reshami zulfon ka andhera

4. Zara si aahat hoti hai

5. Agar tum na hote

6. Sagar Kinare

7. Jo tum hansoge to duniya hnsegi

8. Kuchh dil ne kaha

9. Nainon mein badra chhaye

10. Zindagi, aa raha hoon main

11. Jaiye aap kahan jayenge

12. Mere mahboob qayaamat hogi-1

13. Yahi voh jagah hai

14. Mere mhboob qayqmat hogi-2

15. Waadiyan mera daman

16. Sa re ga ma pa

17. Allah kare dil na lage kisi se

18. Dil se dil milne ka koi kaaran hoga

19. Saara pyar tumhara

20. Mera pyar voh hai ki

21. Apni to jaise taise

22. Bekas pe karam kijiye

23. Kaahe apnon ke kaam nahin aaye

24. Kaahe apnon ke kaam nahin aaye

25. Pag ghunghroo baandh

26. Meharbaan mahboob  dilbar jaane man!

27. Rimjhim gire sawan

27. Rimjhim gire sawan

28.Balma khuli hawa mein

29. Jawani O diwani

30. Mera sanam sabse pyara hai

31. Chanda O Chanda!

32. Chanda O Chanda!

33. Tere pyar mein dildar

34. Meethi meethi ankhiyon se

35. Allah bachaye nujawanon se

36. Desh chhudaye bhesh chhudaye

37. Dillagi ne di hawa

38. Jaane man! ik nazar dekh le

39. Kya nazaare kya sitaare

40. Chali re chali re gori paniya bharan ko

41. Tu shayar hai

42. Main tujhse pyar karoon main shaairee na karoon

43. Shayad meri shadi ka khayal

44. Manmohna bade jhoothe

45. Dream girl

46. Yeh saman saman hai yeh pyar ka

47. Main pyasa tum savan

48. Main pyasi tum savan

49. Main pyasa tum savan

50. Mere sang ga

51. Hum log hain aese diwane duniya ko jhukakar manenge

52. Dhoondhoge agar

53. Are rafta rafta dekho aankh meri ladi hai

54. Chhedo na meri zulfen

55. Khai ke pan banaras wala

56. Hamen raston ki zaroorat nahin hai

57. Hamare sang sang chalen Ganga ki lahren

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More interesting audio musical blogs from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Zindagi ik safar hi suhana

2. Jo tum hansoge

Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?: DSM Satyarthi

November 28, 2008

Why did Islam face a counter revolution at Karbala?: DSM Satyarthi

I never compromised with the persons, who believe that the present radical, communal and terrorist Islam, is the TRUE ISLAM.
Wafa Sultan does not believe it.

She believes that the PRESENT radical, communal and terrorist Islam, is the TRUE ISLAM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafa_Sultan#Reli…
I, every now and then, have to face some bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies, married and unmarried both, who worship the ground, Wafa Sultan walks on.
http://www.copts-united.com/Copts_United_N/TV…

My present active associate, Khadeejah Muhammad, is also one of such bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies.

I haven’t met any Muslim male, till now, who follow Wafa Sultan:
http://www.ncpa.info/news/view_newsdetails.as…
Yet, the large number of the bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies, married and unmarried both, who worship the ground, Wafa Sultan walks on; is too much to be neglected.
They are MORE WAFA SULTAN THAN EVEN WAFA SULTAN is.
My present active associate, Khadeejah Muhammad, is not the leader of such bright young sophisticated Muslim ladies.
But, she REPRESENTS THEM brilliantly.

I remember, in one of her posts, Khadeejah Muhammad, had asked me what the TRUE ISLAM is.
I refer her, and the persons who want my answer to the question, to a link:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/pakistan/TS7…
Here, they can find my thread:
‘Islam according to Qur’an and Maulana Maududi rahamatullh alaihi’
I think, it’s the TRUE ISLAM.
It’s right there, in Al Qur’an Al Kareem and Ahaith e Muqaddasaat.

However, as I have repeatedly said in my 8138 posts till now, Islam has gone through a counter revolution at Karbala:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbala
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbal…

The Sunnis and the Shiaas differ very much in the matter, even somewhat altogether:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbal…
Yet, it’s not the question under discussion here.
The question under discussion here, is WHY DID IT HAPPEN?
In my opinion, it happened, because unfortunately, Huzoor(SAW) did not live to complete his GREAT HISTORIC ISLAMIC REVOLUTION.
Khulfae Raashideen(RA) tried their best to complete it, yet we can’t deny that they lacked the authority and ingenuity, both; Huzoor(SAW) enjoyed in his(S) lifetime.

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More on Islam from DSM Sayarthi:

1. Bal huv qur’anum majeedun fe LAUHIM MAHFOOZIN

2. Innahu laquranun kareemun Fee kitabin maknoonin

3. ‘Hudallilmuttaqeen’: ‘Guidance for controllers of organs’: 2 Al Baqarah: 2

4. ‘Alaa qalbik litakoon minal-munzireen’ ‘upon your heart one of who to warn’

Ħalālah

November 15, 2009

Ħalālah

It was designed in Islam to stop inadvertent, irate,  divorces.

The munāfiqīn use it to satisfy their vile intentions.

Is Islam responsible for it?

DSM Satyarthi

Coming Soon

Meditation: An eversuicidal mistake

November 11, 2009

Meditation: An eversuicidal mistake

DSM Satyarthi

Wikipedia states:

‘Etymology

The word meditation comes from the Indo-European root med-, meaning “to measure.”[1][2] It entered English as meditation through the Latin meditatio, which originally indicated any type of physical or intellectual exercise, then later evolved into the more specific meaning “contemplation.”— ’

I don’t think this information is correct.

The writer is quite mistaken due to his/her western, self-imposed blindness.

I’ve already commented on the subject:

The mental slavery of the English-educated Indians’.

I’ve said in the article:

‘This erroneous westerner view is entirely baseless.’

Actually, the western culture is doing the same mistake now, once Hinduism, Persianism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam and even the Communism did.

The history stands to evidence that once all these six global conquerors did this mistake, they could not survive.

We must try to understand this everfatal, suicidal, historical mistake that kills a dominant culture gradually ultimately.

The western culture is listing itself on its seventh place.

Soon we’d say:

‘Actually, the xxxxxxx culture is doing the same mistake now, once Hinduism, Persianism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Communism and even the western culture did.’

Let’s analyze what this everfatal, suicidal, historical mistake is.

Ved/Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā instructs us to concentrate on two principles and never to forget them:

Yet, we forgot them.

The principles are:

1. ‘Dhiyo yo nah prachodayāt’.

2. ‘Yāthātathyatah’.

We forgot them.

The Hindus were ruling the globe then:

‘The wonder that was India’.

Hinduism says:

‘As nar nahin janmeu jag māhīn,

Prabhtā pāi jāhi mad nāhīn.’

‘No such person has taken birth in the Multiverse that has got the sovereignty and hasn’t become mad.’

—Shri Rāmcharit Mānas

We forgot the admonition of Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā/VED to us, and refused to understand the facts the Persians had realized then and requesting us to act accordingly:

1. ‘Dhiyo yo nah prachodayāt’.

2. ‘Yāthātathyatah’.

We refused to see that those are the facts actually.

What happened?

The Constitution of the Creations, Ved, worked.

It was not biased in favor of Pseudo-Hindus.

We lost our power gradually ultimately to the Persians.

Why?

Because, now the Persians were following the two principles practically, and we were NOT:

1. ‘Dhiyo yo nah prachodayāt’.

2. ‘Yāthātathyatah’.

We thought we are Hindus whether we practice Ved actually or not.

The constitution of the Creations did not recognize our such authority.

It refused our victory, recognizing that of the Persians.

Why?

Had the Ved failed?

No.

Certainly not.

It decided in the favor of Persians, because the Persians followed the two Principles discussed above:

1. ‘Dhiyo yo nah prachodayāt’.

2. ‘Yāthātathyatah’.

They did not have their names in Vedic Sanskr’t.

They had their own language that was a distortion of Vedic Sanskr’t.

They called it Persian.

They had their names in it.

Pseudo Hinduism was defeated and the actual Hinduism won.

Persians replaced Pseudo Hindus in leading the globe.

Lā ikrāh fiddīni: Islam and interfaith love

November 10, 2009

Lā ikraāh fiddīni

Islam and interfaith love

DSM Satyarthi

Chapter 1

Ammī Ħuzoor, Imāmzādī Sheikħzādī Dr. Al Kħadījah Al Waħāb, smiled at Kħadījah Muħammad.

Kħadījah Muħammad also did the same,

“I meet two requirements, Buā Ħazrat. You want me, and Durgesh too wants to marry me.”

“But how can you marry Durgesh, Kħadījah?” Muħammad Māmūjān interrupted.

“Abbū,” Kħadījah Muħammad said curtly, “you couldn’t stop your younger sister, Buā Ħazrat, Imāmzādī Sheikħzādī Dr. Al Kħadījah Al Waħāb from marrying Phoophā Shrī, Vishvās Shakr Mānav. Now if you want your defeat to repeat, I won’t stop you. Go ahead and try it again.”

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More Creative Adult Sex in English from DSM Satyarthi

1. Bahoo Bégum

2. The obsession

3 The daughters and wife of my Musalmān friend

4.The Extramarital affair: Durgesh Åāýéshah Siddīqah:Social Service

5.   Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–1

6. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–2

7. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–3

8. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–4

9. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–5

10. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–6

11. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–7

12. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–8

13. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–9

14. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–10

15.My Social Service: My Sex Empire: Durgesh

16. A Deep Conflict-1

17. A deserving unfaithfulness

18. A deserving unfaithfulness-2

19. I’m never ashamed of it

20. Yåqūb Family-1

21. They conspired against me

22 A secret Smile

23. A new young wife at sixty

24. My dad’s new Musalmān wife

25. The Beaming Knowledge

26. The three pregnants-1

27. The three pregnants-2

28. In the Moonlight

29. The women in my life

30. Sālī, Ammījān!

31. Now entirely secured and safe

32. She needed me extremely

33. Al Jihād fil Durgesh fī sabīlillāh

34. Kħadījah Åbdullah Bājī  seduced me

35. Her Brilliant Decisions-1

36. Her Brilliant Decisions-2

37. Her Brilliant Decisions-3

38. Her Brilliant Decisions-4

39. No Hindu, Please!

40. Only Hindus, Please!

41. Scintillating Ammī and daughter

42. I do hate hypocrisy

43. I still love Durgesh, with immense pride

44. Hell, I revolt

45. She loved me all along

46. She told the untold-1

47. Arātīyato ni dahāti Vedah: The untold history of our freedom fight-1

48. Making love and understanding everything

49. We both, Nādirah, and Arzumand, love Durgesh

50. After the death of my husband

51. The everbest wives-1

52. Ultimately, I’m an Ammī now

53. The most memorable Eidī of her life

54. It was 24×7, that was all we three cared

55. You are the best. You don’t know

56. I’m not defeated even yet-1

57. Misunderstanding: Everyone thought she’s my wife

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More creative adult sex in Hindi/Urdu from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 1

2. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 2

3. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 3

4. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 4

5.Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 5

6. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 6

5. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 7

7. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 8

8. Karwā Chauth kā Rozā

9. Mérā Piyā ghar āyā,Yā Allah! Uiiii!-1

10. Mérā Piyā ghar āyā,Yā Allah! Uiiii!-2

11. Durgesh Sidrah Aħmad aur uski Bhābhījān-1

12. Durgesh Sidrah Aħmad aur uski Bhābhījān-2

13. Eidul Fitr-1

14. Mérī mubārakbād qabool farmāýén, Ħazrat!

Durgesh in history everywhere

November 10, 2009

Durgesh in history everywhere

Durgesh

Famous Muslim beauties in history, Noor Jahan, Mumtaz Mahal, Jahan Aarah etc. in love with, and being fucked by Durgesh

Time travel

Alternate history novel

History revisited

Reviewed

Researched

A new overview on Muslim history

Coming Soon

Al Jihad: No incest

November 10, 2009

Al Jihad: No incest

Learned Muslims against incest

Even Ashvinātam is better if there’s no other option

Incest can’t be compromised

Durgesh

Coming Soon

Mahābhārat in time cycle

November 10, 2009

Mahābhārat in time cycle

 

What was the original time cycle of Mahābhārat?

Did Draupadi punish Pāndavs ever for her historical humiliation?

 

 

Durgesh

 

Coming Soon

Yūsuf or Kr’shñ?-1

November 10, 2009

Yūsuf or Kr’shñ?

Who is our role model?

What do you want to be?

What do you want your children to be?

DSM Satyarthi

Chapter 1

Maulānah Imran looked at Ållāmah Ibrāhīm gravely,

“Ållāmah muħtaram, the problem is grave.”

“I know, Maulānah!”

“This new system of life is revolting our youth against Islam itself.”

“We can’t face it within the limits Islam has prescribed.” Akram said, almost complaining, “If we live within the limits, our daughters and sisters are revolting, leaving Islami Mumālik, in a large number, under this or that pretext. Once out of  Islami Mumālik, they are beyond our legal approach. They marry non Muslims, or just live in with them.”

“This new system of life is harming Islam more than even Durgesh has harmed.” Muħammad Ħasan could not control him.

Maulānah Imran smiled,

“Imām Sāħab, I don’t think Durgesh is responsible for this situation.”

Muħammad Ħasan looked at Maulānah Imran gravely.

“I can understand your dependence on Durgesh, Maulānah!”

“Can you suggest me any alternate from Musalmeen?”

“Nonsense, Maulānah Imran,” Ållāmah Ibrāhīm almost scolded, “do you believe Islam has failed? Allah, nauzbillah, has too?”

“Certainly not, Ållāmah muħtaram!”

“Then, will you please explain to me what do you mean?”

Instead Maulānah Imran, Akram said impatiently,

“It is not an ilmī baħas we are facing, gentlemen. My wife wants sex in broad daylight.”

“Zubédah?”

“No, not Zubédah, Nasreen.”

“Allah kā shukr hai. That’s what I thought.”

“But Zubédah herself is not måsūm.”

“What do you mean?”

“She is the mastermind behind it all.” Akram informed them curtly.

It was Masjid-e Nabvīs.

Salāt-e-Isha’a was just finished.

The Musalmeen were just chatting after the Salāt.

Akram was not feeling comfortable.

He did not want to be another Imām Muħammad Ħasan.

It was Akram’s well thought conclusion that Imām Muħammad Ħasan has lost to Durgesh miserably.

After all, what more a man can lose?

Durgesh has successfully managed to maintain live in relationships with Imām Muħammad Ħasan’s every houselady.

live in relationships.

Durgesh has not even bothered to marry them.

Imām Muħammad Ħasan thundered at Akram,

“So you want Durgesh to marry our houseladies?”

“Imām Sāħab!”

“Akram Sāħab, I didn’t know you are so against us Musalmeen.”

“What do you mean?”

“They are maintaining only their live in relationships with Durgesh.”

“So?”

“Why do you want Durgesh to marry them?”

“Your daughters from them are also doing the same with Durgesh one by one. Naåīmah is the latest.”

“I did not know Nafīsah Salmān would fail as a mother, so miserably.”

“Imām Sāħab! Naåīmah still respects and love you as her Abbū, very much.”

“I’m proud of her, Akram Sāħab!”

“Yet she surrendered to Durgesh in the moonlight, providing him a historical shab-e-urosi and honeymoon for complete one month with her.”

Naåīmah is still faithful to me, as well as to Islam .”

“Alas, none else of your entire extremely beautiful houseladies proved to be so.”

Imām Muħammad Ħasan observed Akram Salmān Sheikħ with keen interest,

“Akram, Nafīsah is your own real sister.”

“Yes.” Akram Salmān Sheikħ said somewhat curtly, “yet we married her to you.”

Imām Muħammad Ħasan was hit under the belt.

Yet he managed not to appear his hurt reactions to come on his bearded face.

In the long run, ultimately, he had learned somewhat how to do it.

His face was fully covered with beard.

And it helped.

Inadvertently, his brain remembered his wife, Nafīsah Salmān’s hateful remark,

“Now I know, Muħammad Ħasan, why do you Musalmeen keep your dirty faces so full of beards.”

“We do it to follow the Sunnat-e-Nabvīs. You understood it once, yourself.”

“Yes!” Nafīsah Salmān winked at him, “yet, I did not know then, it’s one more benefit to you Musalmeen.”

“Oh!”

“It helps you Musalmeen to hide your immense shame, for your inhumane deeds, behind it, although I doubt you Musalmeen feel any of such shame. It needs some inherent humanity to feel that.”

Nafīsah!”

“Huzoors knew you Musalmeen’d need beard very much to hide your dirty faces behind these heavy dirty beards.”

“Then why burqah? To hide you Musalmān Beauties’ entire shameful bodies always surrendered to non Musalmeen shamelessly nude?”

“Thank you. I knew you have such dirty views of us Musalmān Beauties.” Nafīsah Salmān cooed not impressed even a bit.

Naåīmah hates you, your own daughter.”

“Yes, I know.” Nafīsah Salmān smiled, “but I know too who is poisoning her mind against me.”

“Oh!”

Muħammad Ħasan, do you know why not even a single houselady of yours has accompanied you in your dirty fight against Durgesh?”

“Yes. Because you all have ravenous Musalmān Cunts that love to swallow Durgesh’s dirty Uncut Hindu Penis.”

“Dil ké bahlāné ko ‘Ghālib’, yé kħayāl achchhā hai.” Nafīsah Salmān smiled, “You couldn’t stop anyone of us, because you never tried to learn the real reason behind it.”

“That I’m impotent?” Imām Muħammad Ħasan smiled ironically, “Then what about other Musalmeen? Why their ardent Musalmān wives, their ardent Musalmān sisters, their ardent Musalmān daughters, their ardent Musalmān Ammīs, their ardent Musalmān Bahoo Bégums etc. etc. deserted them in favor of your own Durgesh and/or other Hindu Sex Maniacs?”

“They all are refusing to understand that we Musalmān Beauties also have our bodies and their physical needs consequently.”

“Oh, and only Uncut Hindu Penis understands it and quenches it?”

“I’m sorry to admit it, but it’s true nevertheless.”

“There are two ideologies, Nafīsah Salmān,” Imām Muħammad Ħasan said gravely, “one is represented by our Ħazrat Yūsuf ålaihissalām, and the second is represented by Lord Kr’shñ of Hindus.”

Live in relationships.

Durgesh has not even bothered to marry them.

Imām Muħammad Ħasan thundered at Akram,

“So you want Durgesh to marry our houseladies?”

“Imām Sāħab!”

“Akram Sāħab, I didn’t know you are so against us Musalmeen.”

“What do you mean?”

“They are maintaining only their live in relationships with Durgesh.”

“So?”

“Why do you want Durgesh to marry them?”

“Your daughters from them are also doing the same with Durgesh one by one. Naåīmah is the latest.”

“I did not know Nafīsah Salmān would fail as a mother, so miserably.”

“Imām Sāħab! Naåīmah still respects and love you as her Abbū, very much.”

“I’m proud of her, Akram Sāħab!”

“Yet she surrendered to Durgesh in the moonlight, providing him a historical shab-e-urosi and honeymoon for complete one month with her.”

Naåīmah is still faithful to me, as well as to Islam .”

“Alas, none else of your entire extremely beautiful houseladies proved to be so.”

Imām Muħammad Ħasan observed Akram Salmān Sheikħ with keen interest,

“Akram, Nafīsah is your own real sister.”

“Yes.” Akram Salmān Sheikħ said somewhat curtly, “yet we married her to you.”

Imām Muħammad Ħasan was hit under the belt.

Yet he managed not to appear his hurt reactions to come on his bearded face.

In the long run, ultimately, he had learned somewhat how to do it.

His face was fully covered with beard.

And it helped.

Inadvertently, his brain remembered his wife, Nafīsah Salmān’s hateful remark,

“Now I know, Muħammad Ħasan, why do you Musalmeen keep your dirty faces so full of beards.”

“We do it to follow the Sunnat-e-Nabvīs. You understood it once, yourself.”

“Yes!” Nafīsah Salmān winked at him, “yet, I did not know then, it’s one more benefit to you Musalmeen.”

“Oh!”

“It helps you Musalmeen to hide your immense shame, for your inhumane deeds, behind it, although I doubt you Musalmeen feel any of such shame. It needs some inherent humanity to feel that.”

Nafīsah!”

“Huzoors knew you Musalmeen’d need beard very much to hide your dirty faces behind these heavy dirty beards.”

“Then why burqah? To hide you Musalmān Beauties’ entire shameful bodies always surrendered to non Musalmeen shamelessly nude?”

“Thank you. I knew you have such dirty views of us Musalmān Beauties.” Nafīsah Salmān cooed not impressed even a bit.

Naåīmah hates you, your own daughter.”

“Yes, I know.” Nafīsah Salmān smiled, “but I know too who is poisoning her mind against me.”

“Oh!”

Muħammad Ħasan, do you know why not even a single houselady of yours has accompanied you in your dirty fight against Durgesh?”

“Yes. Because you all have ravenous Musalmān Cunts that love to swallow Durgesh’s dirty Uncut Hindu Penis.”

“Dil ké bahlāné ko ‘Ghālib’, yé kħayāl achchhā hai.” Nafīsah Salmān smiled, “You couldn’t stop anyone of us, because you never tried to learn the real reason behind it.”

“That I’m impotent?” Imām Muħammad Ħasan smiled ironically, “Then what about other Musalmeen? Why their ardent Musalmān wives, their ardent Musalmān sisters, their ardent Musalmān daughters, their ardent Musalmān Ammīs, their ardent Musalmān Bahoo Bégums etc. etc. deserted them in favor of your own Durgesh and/or other Hindu Sex Maniacs?”

“They all are refusing to understand that we Musalmān Beauties also have our bodies and their physical needs consequently.”

“Oh, and only Uncut Hindu Penis understands it and quenches it?”

“I’m sorry to admit it, but it’s true nevertheless.”

“There are two ideologies, Nafīsah Salmān,” Imām Muħammad Ħasan said gravely, “one is represented by our Ħazrat Yūsuf ålaihissalām, and the second is represented by Lord Kr’shñ of Hindus.”***

Nafīsah Salmān smiled,

“And you believe Ħazrat Yūsuf ålaihissalām is right?”

“Every true and ardent Musalmān must believe it.” Imām Muħammad Ħasan said observing his wife, Nafīsah Salmān, contemptuously.

Nafīsah Salmān observed Imām Muħammad Ħasan more scornfully,

“Why is it, Ħasan, that your Eimān is always aggressive when it has to do something against us Muslimahs and non Muslims?”

“Nonsense!”

“Why do you always put us Muslimahs with non-Muslims, Ħasan?”

“You are crazy.”

“Why are you Musalmeen not truthful with even your own womankind?”

Durgesh has poisoned your mind against us Musalmeen very much.” Imām Muħammad Ħasan said gravely, “that’s how the Hindus work.”

“What do you mean?”

Hindus themselves have accepted it always in their own history, written by them ownselves that the Hindus were never men of the battle fields. The Hindus were, and still are, always, the men of the bed, the men of our women.”

“And you think everyone should hate Hindus for it. Don’t you?” Nafīsah Salmān laughed scornfully at her husband.

“Why not? The cowards! Always seeking shelter into our women’s skirts. Hindus never fought us Musalmeen on the battlefields. They always fought us fucking our womankind. The greatest weapon the Hindus have against us Musalmeen is their Uncut Hindu Penis. Can any Hindu deny it ever truthfully?”

Nafīsah Salmān smiled,

“Why should they?”

“Why not?”

“You are accepting the fact that you Musalmeen were always, and still are, blood hounds.”

“What?”

“And instead of being ashamed of it, you are shamelessly proud of it.”Nafīsah Salmān said curtly, “Hindus never hide the fact that instead of battle fields, they prefer sex more and more.”

Imām Muħammad Ħasan laughed ironically,

“And Hindus are proud of it?”

“Why shouldn’t they be?”

“Why should they be?”

“Only the cowards can appreciate this policy.”

“Only inhumane can appreciate what you Musalmeen did in the history. It is full of blood and destruction. The entire humankind hates the blood soaked history of Musalmeen.”

“And the entire humankind appreciates the sex oriented everdirty history of Hindus? The Hindus fucked our Musalmān houseladies in our own houses, on our own beds, when we were fighting with their fighters in the battlefields.”

“Well, it was war, Ħasan.”

“Oh, what a way to fight the wars. Send some fighters to fight with the Musalmeen in the battlefields, and send the second group of dirty sexy Hindus to the households of the Musalmeen to fuck their houseladies. Shame on Hindus.”

“I don’t think so.”

“Because you are sex obsessed for Uncut Hindu Penis.”

“It’s better to be sex obsessed for Uncut Hindu Penis than being blood hounds and the devils of destructions.”

“Shame on you.”

“Shame on me? No. Never. Shame on you, Ħasan. Sex is never destructive if used with good intentions by noble doers. War is never constructive. It’s always allowed as a last resort, by humankind, if there isn’t another way to the survival of humanity.”

Nafīsah Salmān kissed me on my lips,

“He is unable to understand our viewpoint, Durgesh!”

“I know, darling!”

“Can’t we do anything for Musalmeen, really?” Naåīmah Muħammad Ħasan asked me.

“You can also try to educate your father, Naåīmah.” I said gravely, “We Hindus always prefer sex on wars. That’s why we used our Divine Weapons, our divyāstrs, always only for our self-protection. We never attacked any country, any nation, with them.”

“But you Hindus always attacked other countries and other nations with your Uncut Hindu Penis. Didn’t you?” Naåīmah Muħammad Ħasan smiled cunningly, appreciatively.

“Well, darling,” I said gravely, “We never hide our policy in the matter. We are never hypocrites in the matter. We are not known for our Divine Weapons, our divyāstrs only. We have developed Kāmsootr,  Anangrang, Rati Rahasy’, Naagar Sarvasvam, Rati Manjaree, and even Tantrs, an Upved of Atharv Ved, too. Lord Vishñu went to the extent  to make love to his sisters in law/Salhajs Vr’nda and Tulsi, even deceiving them. Because, his brothers in law/Sālé Jālandhar and Shankhchoođ were evil doers. There is a complete Chapter ‘Pādārik Prakarañ-’ , Part 5, ‘About the wives of others’;  in Kaam Sootr. The Bachhalyas/Vatss followed this principle to the extent that they were termed to be Dev Gandharvs even. ‘Y’ gaam dhaaryati s’ gandharvah’.”

“Allah—Allah, I know, Durgesh.” Naåīmah Muħammad Ħasan interrupted me.

“Then what more you want to know?”

“I don’t want to know. I want to say something.”

“You are always welcome, darling, after that moonlight and after our honeymoon for one month, after all.”

“Musalmeen would never accept sex as a constructive diplomacy and a permanent policy of war.”

“And Hindus would never leave it. Why? I’ve already told you.”

Durgesh!”

“It’s not practical even.” I said, “War is destructive. It doesn’t contain any participation of women as women. No society can be built without an active participation of womankind. The policy ‘Imām nārīm sukr’té dadhāt has full participation of womankind in building a progressive human society. We Hindus have already done it by building an immortal society.”

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More Creative Adult Sex in English from DSM Satyarthi

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2. The obsession

3 The daughters and wife of my Musalmān friend

4.The Extramarital affair: Durgesh Åāýéshah Siddīqah:Social Service

5.   Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–1

6. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–2

7. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–3

8. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–4

9. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–5

10. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–6

11. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–7

12. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–8

13. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–9

14. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–10

15.My Social Service: My Sex Empire: Durgesh

16. A Deep Conflict-1

17. A deserving unfaithfulness

18. A deserving unfaithfulness-2

19. I’m never ashamed of it

20. Yåqūb Family-1

21. They conspired against me

22 A secret Smile

23. A new young wife at sixty

24. My dad’s new Musalmān wife

25. The Beaming Knowledge

26. The three pregnants-1

27. The three pregnants-2

28. In the Moonlight

29. The women in my life

30. Sālī, Ammījān!

31. Now entirely secured and safe

32. She needed me extremely

33. Al Jihād fil Durgesh fī sabīlillāh

34. Kħadījah Åbdullah Bājī  seduced me

35. Her Brilliant Decisions-1

36. Her Brilliant Decisions-2

37. Her Brilliant Decisions-3

38. Her Brilliant Decisions-4

39. No Hindu, Please!

40. Only Hindus, Please!

41. Scintillating Ammī and daughter

42. I do hate hypocrisy

43. I still love Durgesh, with immense pride

44. Hell, I revolt

45. She loved me all along

46. She told the untold-1

47. Arātīyato ni dahāti Vedah: The untold history of our freedom fight-1

48. Making love and understanding everything

49. We both, Nādirah, and Arzumand, love Durgesh

50. After the death of my husband

51. The everbest wives-1

52. Ultimately, I’m an Ammī now

53. The most memorable Eidī of her life

54. It was 24×7, that was all we three cared

55. You are the best. You don’t know

56. I’m not defeated even yet-1

57. Misunderstanding: Everyone thought she’s my wife

58. Yūsuf or Kr’shñ?-1

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More creative adult sex in Hindi/Urdu from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 1

2. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 2

3. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 3

4. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 4

5.Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 5

6. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 6

5. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 7

7. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 8

8. Karwā Chauth kā Rozā

9. Mérā Piyā ghar āyā,Yā Allah! Uiiii!-1

10. Mérā Piyā ghar āyā,Yā Allah! Uiiii!-2

11. Durgesh Sidrah Aħmad aur uski Bhābhījān-1

12. Durgesh Sidrah Aħmad aur uski Bhābhījān-2

13. Eidul Fitr-1

14. Mérī mubārakbād qabool farmāýén, Ħazrat!

Misunderstanding: Everyone thought she’s my wife

November 9, 2009

Misunderstanding

Everyone thought she’s my wife

Durgesh

I never thought I would treat my Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, as a woman until the day she made me realize I am the man of the house.

You are right.

Nauhīd Raħmān was not my real Ammī.

Yet she loved me not less than my real Ammī Ħuzoor, Imāmzādī Sheikħzādī Dr. Al Kħadījah Al Waħāb.

She was one her closest friends.

Few months ago, her husband died.

I used to call him ‘Abbū’.

He left everything to me with a condition that I’ve to take care of her widow, Nauhīd Raħmān, after his death.

As a result I had a house and a large cash in the bank, in my name.

“Don’t worry, Nauhīd!”my Ammī Ħuzoor, Imāmzādī Sheikħzādī Dr. Al Kħadījah Al Waħāb said gravely, “Durgesh would transfer everything to your name.”

Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, smiled to my Ammī Ħuzoor,

“I never thought, Al Kħadījah, that you’d snatch away even my son from me, as soon as I lose my husband.”

“What nonsense are you talking, idiot?”Ammī Ħuzoor scolded Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, “I’ve instructed your son, Durgesh, to manage his activities in a manner so that he can give you his company as much as he can. You can’t be left alone in the house.”

Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān’s eyes were full of tears,

“Ask Vishvās Jījū first.”

“Sālī, you should come here, and live with us.”Pitr’shrī Vishvās Shakr Mānav winked at Ammījān Nauhīd Raħmān.

“Al Kħadījah,” Ammījān Nauhīd Raħmān laughed at her closest friend, my Ammī Ħuzoor, “térā Hindu Kħasam mujhé ānkh mār rahā hai. Yeh samajh rahā hai ki Raħmān mar gayā, to main iske bistar par aa jāoongī.”

“Chāhtī to main bhī yahi hoon, Nauhīd!”

“No, Al Kħadījah!”Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, said gravely, “I can’t forget Raħmān.”

Ammī Ħuzoor argued but Ammījān Nauhīd Raħmān kept on refusing politely.

Pitr’shrī smiled,

“Let it go at that, Al Kħadījah, she has her son to take care of her. And we are still alive too.”

Ammī had to do all the work.

She might have coped well probably for a month or so as she never complained.

But one day, she just bursted on me. She cursed me I am irresponsible and a no-good wonderer Hindu Playboy and this and that.

She told me that I am the man of the house and I should take care of all the activities my ‘Abbū’ used to do to the household.

I felt bad for Ammī and from then on I started looking into household activities too.

I got into this household activity groove pretty quickly as I was taking care of all the outside activities and Ammī never complained again.

Every thing was going well.

Well at least until I realized Ammī is also a Musalmān woman, a Musalmān Beauty.

I still remember that day.

I came early from work and since Ammī did not open the door for me, I used the key to get in.

I heard the showering noise from our bathroom so I went to my room to lay all my stuff.

The shower noise stopped and heard Ammī go into her room.

I walked out of my room and strolled towards our lounge passing Ammījān’s room.

The door was not closed properly so I took a casual look.

There was Ammī, Nauhīd Raħmān, in her wet petticoat tied around her waist and naked on the top.

I might have seen her naked Musalmān titties before but never saw her in that position.

She looked extremely beautiful and voluptuous!

Ammī, Nauhīd Raħmān, was an extremely beautiful, still amazingly young,  Musalmān lady.

Her big Saåūdī Årab Musalmān boobs wer not even a bit saggy and her waist was still not a bit broad.

Her shape was excellent among most Musalmān housewives in India.

Her sexiness was more displayed with her wet petticoat clinging onto her gorgeous Musalmān buttocks and her body was moist with some after shower sweat.

I quickly turned and walked away before my Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, could notice me.

After few minutes, I yelled, making my presence known.

Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, acknowledged and we had a usual talk.

After that sexy scene of my Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, I always visualized her half naked and with petticoat every time I saw her.

She was still so young that people thought she was my wife.

“Nonsense!” she blurted out, “He is my son. Can’t you see even our age difference?”

“Age difference?” Maulana Imran smiled, “young lady, how old you think you are?”

“How old you think I am?” Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, was furious.

“Still in teens. Eighteen—nineteen at the most.”

“You are a hell of a judge of age, Maulana. What do you think Durgesh is old?”

“You mean your husband?”

“I mean my son.” Ammījān Nauhīd Raħmān gritted through her teeth.

Maulana Imran said tartly,

“Young lady, I know your husband very well.”

“Oh, you know my husband? you know my husband?”

“Certainly. He is a Hindu playboy. Young Musalmān Beauties of your age are crazy for him. My own daughters are—“

“To hell with your horny daughters.” Ammījān Nauhīd Raħmān shouted, “He isn’t my husband. He is my son. He is only eighteen. I’m thirty five, Almost double of his age.”

“Young lady. Have some fear of Allah and Rasools. Don’t call your Hindu huband or Hindu lover, whatever he is, your son. You are a Musalmān young lady after all.”

“You are cazy.” Ammījān Nauhīd Raħmān told him in extremely cold voice and marched out with me.

My attraction towards her grew day by day and I started finding opportunities to peek on her naked Musalmān flesh.

I even started fucking my other Musalmān beloveds  imagining they were, Ammījān Nauhīd Raħmān.

It was at this instant, I realized Abbū had left me another thing other than the house and cash.

It was my Ammījān, Nauhīd Raħmān, and her lovely Musalmān body.

She did not accept my Pitr’shrī’s offer, because she loved me actually.

The people thought she was my wife.

How right the people are.

I met Maulana Imran,

“Maulana muħtaram, I’m sorry for my wife’s angry behavior.”

Maulana Imran smiled knowingly,

“I know, barkħurdār! You live in Nauhīd villa with your extremely beautiful Musalmān wife, don’t you?”

“You are right, Maulana! I’m again sorry for my wife’s—“

“It’s all right, my boy, it’s all right. But I must say, she is very proud of her Hindu husband.”

“Thank you, Maulana! I’m grateful to you that—“

“Is she late Maulana Raħmān’s daughter?”

“That’s right, Maulana! How do you know?”

“Tāđné wale qayāmat kī nazar rakhté hain, janāb!”

I laughed,

“You are hundred percent right.”

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More Creative Adult Sex in English from DSM Satyarthi

1. Bahoo Bégum

2. The obsession

3 The daughters and wife of my Musalmān friend

4.The Extramarital affair: Durgesh Åāýéshah Siddīqah:Social Service

5.   Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–1

6. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–2

7. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–3

8. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–4

9. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–5

10. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–6

11. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–7

12. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–8

13. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–9

14. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–10

15.My Social Service: My Sex Empire: Durgesh

16. A Deep Conflict-1

17. A deserving unfaithfulness

18. A deserving unfaithfulness-2

19. I’m never ashamed of it

20. Yåqūb Family-1

21. They conspired against me

22 A secret Smile

23. A new young wife at sixty

24. My dad’s new Musalmān wife

25. The Beaming Knowledge

26. The three pregnants-1

27. The three pregnants-2

28. In the Moonlight

29. The women in my life

30. Sālī, Ammījān!

31. Now entirely secured and safe

32. She needed me extremely

33. Al Jihād fil Durgesh fī sabīlillāh

34. Kħadījah Åbdullah Bājī  seduced me

35. Her Brilliant Decisions-1

36. Her Brilliant Decisions-2

37. Her Brilliant Decisions-3

38. Her Brilliant Decisions-4

39. No Hindu, Please!

40. Only Hindus, Please!

41. Scintillating Ammī and daughter

42. I do hate hypocrisy

43. I still love Durgesh, with immense pride

44. Hell, I revolt

45. She loved me all along

46. She told the untold-1

47. Arātīyato ni dahāti Vedah: The untold history of our freedom fight-1

48. Making love and understanding everything

49. We both, Nādirah, and Arzumand, love Durgesh

50. After the death of my husband

51. The everbest wives-1

52. Ultimately, I’m an Ammī now

53. The most memorable Eidī of her life

54. It was 24×7, that was all we three cared

55. You are the best. You don’t know

56. I’m not defeated even yet-1

57. Misunderstanding: Everyone thought she’s my wife

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More creative adult sex in Hindi/Urdu from DSM Satyarthi:

1. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 1

2. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 2

3. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 3

4. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 4

5.Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 5

6. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 6

5. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 7

7. Tujhé Dékhā Tujhé Chāhā: 8

8. Karwā Chauth kā Rozā

9. Mérā Piyā ghar āyā,Yā Allah! Uiiii!-1

10. Mérā Piyā ghar āyā,Yā Allah! Uiiii!-2

11. Durgesh Sidrah Aħmad aur uski Bhābhījān-1

12. Durgesh Sidrah Aħmad aur uski Bhābhījān-2

13. Eidul Fitr-1

14. Mérī mubārakbād qabool farmāýén, Ħazrat!

I’m not defeated even yet-1

November 8, 2009

I’m not defeated even yet

Durgesh

Chapter 1

My wife, my daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh, daughter and I were tired.

We had hiked all afternoon up the mountain, then set-up camp for the night.

My daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh and I made us a nice camp, well organized, as my wife and daughter prepared dinner.

It might’ve been freeze-dried and instant food, but we all knew it was going to taste like manna from heaven after the long, hard 16-mile trek.

And it did.

We had just finished eating.

We were relaxing in the relatively warm night air around the fire, feeling the ache in our muscles, when the rain came.

It was a cloudburst and forced us to scramble getting our perishables into the large family-sized tent.

The hard rain only lasted for ten minutes or so, but it was enough to soak us all to the bone.

By the time, we were in the tent and buttoned-up against the elements, the rain had died down to a soft pitter-pat on the tent.

It was too late, though, to suit us.

We were all cold, wet, and miserable.

“We need to get out of these wet things as soon as possible,” my wife said, “or we’re all going to catch our death of cold.”

“No argument from me,” I said and my daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh and daughter chimed-in with their agreement.

“Then let’s get started.” my wife said.

“Sure,” I agreed. “Let me help you put up the divider.”

My wife Almas Durrānī and I unraveled the fabric divider and hung it across the middle of the tent.

My daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh collected his ‘Ammī in law’ and ‘wife’’s backpacks, put them on the other side and spread out the sleeping bags while we worked.

My daughter Åāýéshah Muħammad, pretty much, just stood around and shivered while dripping a puddle on the floor near the door of the tent.

Durgesh couldn’t help but notice how her nipples stuck out underneath her wet T-shirt and bra.

Eishān Param Brahm Paramātmā , how she’d grown!’ Durgesh must have thought.

It was written all over his handsome, yet full of his open Hindu lust for my extremely beautiful daughter, face.

I smiled.

These Hindus can never improve.

They want to fuck Musalmān Beauties always, irrespective of even the presence of their Ammī and Abbū.

However, I knew my daughter too.

She was a real looker: long blonde hair like silk, nicely rounded grown-up Musalmān breasts, a tiny waist, and a tight perky round Musalmān butt that just ached to be patted by Durgesh.

Once we had the divider up, the girls went underneath to their side.

They started to change, while Durgesh and I stayed on our side and did the same.

“Do you mind if we have the lantern, guys?” my wife asked, “It’s too dark over here to see what we’re doing.”

I picked it up and hoisted it over the divider and my wife took it.

“Thanks.”

She set it down, but it must’ve been against the far wall of the tent because the girls’ shadows fell across the divider.

I didn’t notice at first.

My daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh and I started to change out of our wet clothes.

I did notice, though, that when we both got down to our underwear, he turned away from me.

He wasn’t normally shy in front of me and I wasn’t shy in front of him either.

Then I noticed the shadows on the divider and saw the outline of my wife and daughter.

They were two naked Musalmān beauties.

It was like a soft-core porno flick of silhouettes just three feet from my daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh and me.

As I stared, I felt Durgesh starting to get hard and I hurriedly turned my back to my daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh as he had done to me.

These Hindus can never improve, I told myself.

They haven’t any taqvā in the matter at all.

I knew Durgesh very well.

He had no morals in the matter.

Imāmzādī Ħumairah Qāzī was my own real sister.

Durgesh was her adopted son.

Yet, they were fucking each other now, openly, ever unashamed.

Not only Imāmzādī Ħumairah Qāzī, my cousin, Imāmzādī Sheikħzādī Réħānah Muħammad was also having the same illicit sexual relations with the same Durgesh.

Imāmzādī Al Tauħīd Al Muħammad was one more so.

Rābiyah Altamash was one more so.

Al Waħīdah Al Waħāb was one more so.

One can easily understand how many ‘one more sos’ were there.

Apparently, Durgesh was their son, and they were his Ammīs.

Yet, he was fucking all of them, some of them secretly, but some of them even openly, entirely not ashamed of it, even the least.

It was his routine.

It was a normal relationship Durgesh had with his Ammīs (?).

Allah, mérī taubah!

Allah, mérī taubah!

And my own daughter, Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī, had chosen Durgesh her own boyfriend.

I was thinking of my wife, Almas Durrānī, how long was she safe from Durgesh’s everravenous Uncut Hindu Penis for elder Musalmān Cunts.

He was used to fuck all the extremely beautiful Musalmān houseladies, once he fucks any one of them.

He had a vast record, with no repentance at all.

I quickly put it out of my mind, as it was not good for my own relations with my daughter, Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī.

I peeled my wet underwear off, and then put on my jogging pants and a T-shirt.

The dry clothing made me feel instantly warmer, but a chill was still deep in my bones.

“Hey, hon? Did you pack any liquor?”

Usually, we would take along some brandy or whiskey.

Liquid was difficult to haul in a pack, due to the weight, so we’d opt for the hard stuff…more punch for less weight.

It was handy to have if we needed it for first aid, but usually it served as a nightcap and a little touch of civilization on our backpacking trips.

“Yeah, you read my mind.” my wife replied, “It’s in the outside pocket of your pack.”

“Oh, thanks! Make me carry it, huh?”

“The only way to travel, my dear, Al Muħammad Al Qāzī!”

While I was chagrined at having been duped, I was grateful to my wife, Almas Durrānī, when I found four pints of whiskey tucked in around my socks and underwear.

“Wow. You weren’t fooling around. Planning a party or something?” I asked when I found it.

“Well, they forecasted this rain and I thought it’d be nice if we got caught in it. Help warm us up a bit, you know?”

“Us? You mean the kids, too?”

My daughter’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh, just pulling his T-shirt on over his head, looked at me with eyes as big as quarters.

“Well, I guess a little wouldn’t hurt,” my wife, Almas Durrānī, said. “Do you think?”

“Sure, Dad,” Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī quickly added, “Durgesh and I are just as cold as you and Ammī. It’s only fair.”

I looked at my daughter, Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh and smiled, “OK. I guess we all deserve a little. It’s been kind of a tough hike so far. But you two be careful,” I said looking at Durgesh “I don’t want to be responsible for getting my own kids drunk. And I especially don’t wanting anyone getting sick.”

“We won’t dad,” Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzīwhined from the other side of the divider.

I got a bottle out and buttoned up my pack.

As Durgesh turned around, he saw the silhouette of my naked daughter, Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī.

She was sticking out her chest and arching her back as she pulled her nightgown on over her head.

Durgesh glanced over at me and noticed I was staring too, but at my own wife, Almas Durrānī’s shadow.

Then I noticed Almas Durrānī’s image bent over her backpack, her large, naked Musalmān breasts shaking as she stuffed clothing down toward the bottom.

Durgesh was staring at her too.

Allah, I couldn’t blame Durgesh this time.

Only an impotent could control him.

Then why blame Durgesh?

This must be torture.

Then I became aware of my own growing erection and sat down before he noticed.

My movement must’ve distracted him because he quickly looked at me and smiled confidently, as he sat down across from me.

“Quite a show, huh?” I whispered.

“No kidding.” Durgesh smiled immediately without any hesitation at all.

I was astonished at his Hindu daring.

He was commenting to a Musalmān husband and Musalmān father that his Musalmān wife and Musalmān daughter were quite a show with their extremely enticing, extremely beautiful, Musalmān nudity.

He even didn’t try to be modest about it.

Allah, why these Hindus behave so always, when it comes to Musalmān Beauties?

Why they are so horny?

Why they are so bold?

I just patted him on the arm and opened the bottle of whiskey.

“Here,” I told him, “You look like you need it, but just a little tiny sip.”

He smiled,

“Sorry, I never use wine.”

“What? Are you mad?” I looked at Durgesh incredulously.

“No.” Durgesh was still smiling, “Actually, I don’t want to be.”

“Wow. That burns.”

“Warms your insides, doesn’t it?”

“Yeah,” Durgesh said smiling.

Then, I took the bottle and swallowed deeply.

Allah, it felt good.

The chill seemed to disappear and it was replaced with a warm, cozy feeling.

Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī, my daughter, came from underneath the divider to sit with us on our sleeping bags.

I handed her the bottle and admonished her not to take too much.

She, too, felt warmed, but didn’t quite like the taste.

Soon, Almas Durrānī, my wife, took down the divider and we had more room to spread out.

We were warmer now and fairly tired, so we took the opportunity to lay across our bags and talk as we drank our whiskey…enjoying the feel of our warm bed clothes and soft sleeping bags.

The kids seemed pretty chatty, an extremely rare occurrence for teenagers, and Almas Durrānī and I were loving it.

I could tell just by looking in her eyes that we were kind of re-discovering our children…or perhaps getting to know them for the first time as the adults they were so quickly becoming.

Either way, it was great and we were both enjoying their company.

Before we knew it, the bottle was empty and I relented to pleadings from everyone to break out another one.

I think we were all enjoying the time and didn’t want it to end.

We were also just starting to get warm enough to forget how cold we were earlier.

Then it seemed like no time when I got out the third bottle.

We were all having a great time passing the whiskey around and talking about everything and anything.

It was obvious the kids felt like adults and they seemed to be coming out of their shells.

I also wondered if maybe they were getting drunk.

Either way, though, it was great to have them be so open with us, a nice and welcome change, so neither Almas Durrānī nor I wanted it to end.

I guess that’s why I don’t even remember getting out the last bottle.

Then again, I guess Almas Durrānī and I were getting kind of lit too.

I eventually concluded that “lit” wasn’t the word for it.

The whiskey seemed to hit me all at once and I realized suddenly that I was three sheets to the wind, practically knockdown drunk.

As I watched Almas Durrānī talking, I realized she was close to blitzed, but doing pretty good hiding it from the kids.

Amazingly, though, I couldn’t tell if our kids were drunk.

Durgesh just jabbered away about college and Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī talked non-stop about her girlfriends and the latest trends they were into.

Then something Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī said caught my attention.

“No Ammī, I’m not that kind of pretty, I mean, the kind boys are really interested in. Durgesh is more than enough for me. He is a thousand, or even more, men, alone. I’m not enough to satisfy him. I always fail. And therefore, I always surrender and love him very much. I suggest you to try him.”

I was suddenly all-alert, despite my immense intoxication.

What was it happening?

My daughter was suggesting her Ammī, to try her Hindu boyfriend.

No fear that I’d slap her.

Allah, Hindus make Musalmān Beauties too, shameless.

I couldn’t believe it was my own daughter.

“Of course you are.” Almas Durrānī, my wife, replied, “You’re a gorgeous Musalmān girl. I’m sure all the Hindu boys find you attractive. You have beautiful blue eyes, lovely hair, and a terrific figure. Don’t you think so, Al Muħammad Al Qāzī?”

Thankfully, I was listening.

“Yeah!” I said a little too quickly, “Jeez, Åāýéshah Muħammad. Get a clue. You’ve turned into a very sexy Musalmān girl and any Hindu boy that has you, should be damn grateful.”

“Oh, Abbū. You’re drunk.”

“That may be.” Everyone laughed as I laid down on my back and folded my hands underneath my head, “But I still think You’re one hell of a hot Musalmān babe.”

There was an awkward silence as Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī blushed and looked away.

I couldn’t help but notice her large, round Musalmān breasts heaving underneath her cotton nightgown as she breathed heavily.

I was right, Allah, damn it.

She was hot and there was no doubt about it.

Durgesh was lucky that he fucked her.

What if she was my daughter?

She had a Musalmān Cunt too, nevertheless.

And she had every right to let Durgesh fill it with his Uncut Hindu Penis.

What if Durgesh is a Hindu?

My daughter should always get what she wanted.

After all, she was my daughter, Al Muħammad Al Qāzī’s.

Wasn’t she?

“What about me?” Durgesh asked, “Musalmeen don’t like that Musalmān girls like me, do they?” he whined.

Yeah, my daughter, Åāýéshah Muħammad Qāzī’s Hindu boyfriend Durgesh was kinda drunk.

Kinda drunk!

NOT drunk.

He was intoxicated with the nudity of two Musalmān Beauties.

But you gotta hand it to him.

He was not gonna be left out of the conversation.

He’d make his own way…even if he had to appeal to female pity.

Smart kid.

“No baby,” his Ammī in law, my wife, Almas Durrānī, cooed, “Come here. Sit next to me you handsome Hindu devil. You need some lovings.”

Durgesh scooted over next to his Ammī in law and leaned into her outstretched arms.

I couldn’t help but notice he rested his Hindu face right on her nightgown-covered Musalmān breasts.

If I weren’t so drunk, I’d almost swear he smiled at me.

Perhaps telling me,

“Sālé, Musalmān, térī béŧī ko to main chod chukā. Ab aaj térī bīvī ko bhī chodkar dikha doonga, térī apnī ānkhon ké sāmné. Agar Vāqaī apnī Musalmān Ammī kā doodh piya hai, to mujhé rok kar dikha. I challenge you, impotent!”

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46. She told the untold-1

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Méré Māmūzād Cousin kī Sasurāl mein main

November 8, 2009

Méré Māmūzād Cousin kī Sasurāl mein main

Durgesh

Méré Māmūjān ké bađé lađké, méré Māmūzād Cousin, ké nikāħ ki baat ek ghar mein chal rahi thi.

Māmūjān ka lađkā, mérā Māmūzād Cousin, gāon mein hi rahata thā.

Wahān per Māmūjān ki kafi zameen thī, aur voh achchhī bhī thī.

Kaam karne ki zaroorat nahin thī.

Paisā bahut tha unke paas.

Jahān baat chal rahi thi un logon ka ghar Jabalpur mein thā, aur main bhi Jabalpur men hī  rahtā tha.

Méré cousin Rasheed ne kahā,

“Yaar, Durgesh!  jis lađkī se mérā nikāħ hone ki baat chal rahi hai, wo to téré hi shahar ki hai. zara uske bare me pata kerke bata ki wo kaisi lađkī hai. uska chaal chalan kaisa hai.”

Maine kahā.

“ Ŧhīk hai. Tū  mujhko address de de. Main patā ker doonga.”

Méré Māmūjān ke lađke, Rasheed; ne mujhé address de diyā.

Mérā ek friend Ravi police inspector hai, isi shahar men.

Maine usse kahā.

“Yaar, Ravi! Ye kaam kerna hai.”

Usne kaha ki ho jayega do teen din mein.

Maine do din båd usse baat ki.

Usne batāyā,

“Sab kuchhh ŧhīk hai. Lađkī  ka koī chakkar bhee nahīn chal raha hai aur kuchhh pūrāna gađbađ måmlā bhi nahīn hai. Uske ghar mein uskī Ammī hai, Buā hai, bas; aur ék  bađī bahan hai, jiskā nikāħ ho chukā hai. Baap nahīn  hai. Uskā inteqāl ho chukā hai. Uskī Buā saath me hi rahti hai. Uskī apné husband se nahīn banti, isliye uske saath nahīn rahti hai. Aur ek kħālā  hai jo isi shahar me rahti hai apné parivar ke saath. Kafi paisa hai inke paas. Apnā  store hai, general main bazar mein, aur kafi achchhā  chalta hai. Isliye ghar mein paise ki koī kami nahīn hai.”

Maine ye sab information apné cousin, Rasheed; ko de di.

Kuchhh din båd uska phone aaya to usne mujhé  batāyā ki uskī baat wahān pakki ho gayi hai.

Maine  usko mubarakbād di.

Usne kahā,

“Yaar, Durgesh! Mérā nikāħ do month ke båd  hai.”

“Oh!” Main bolā.

“Uské ghar mein koī mard to hai nahīn. Too ek kaam ker. Next do month too wahīn rah le, aur nikāħ ke kaam mein unki help kar de.”

Maine kahā,

“ Ŧhīk hai.”

Maine  socha, jab Rasheed aesa chāhtā hai, to wahīn rah liya jāyegā, kya farq padta hai.

Usne kaha ki main wahān aakar tera introduction kara doonga.

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12. Durgesh Sidrah Aħmad aur uski Bhābhījān-2

13. Eidul Fitr-1

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15. Méré Māmūzād Cousin kī Sasurāl mein main

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14. Årab Mahā Bhārat: 1/18: ‘Ādi Parv: Saůūdī Årabia’–10

15.My Social Service: My Sex Empire: Durgesh

16. A Deep Conflict-1

17. A deserving unfaithfulness

18. A deserving unfaithfulness-2

19. I’m never ashamed of it

20. Yåqūb Family-1

21. They conspired against me

22 A secret Smile

23. A new young wife at sixty

24. My dad’s new Musalmān wife

25. The Beaming Knowledge

26. The three pregnants-1

27. The three pregnants-2

28. In the Moonlight

29. The women in my life

30. Sālī, Ammījān!

31. Now entirely secured and safe

32. She needed me extremely

33. Al Jihād fil Durgesh fī sabīlillāh

34. Kħadījah Åbdullah Bājī  seduced me

35. Her Brilliant Decisions-1

36. Her Brilliant Decisions-2

37. Her Brilliant Decisions-3

38. Her Brilliant Decisions-4

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40. Only Hindus, Please!

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42. I do hate hypocrisy

43. I still love Durgesh, with immense pride

44. Hell, I revolt

45. She loved me all along

46. She told the untold-1

47. Arātīyato ni dahāti Vedah: The untold history of our freedom fight-1

48. Making love and understanding everything

49. We both, Nādirah, and Arzumand, love Durgesh

50. After the death of my husband

51. The everbest wives-1

52. Ultimately, I’m an Ammī now

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54. It was 24×7, that was all we three cared

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